M77 Replaces Moly 60- Apparently So

I just bought a 100 gram of Rocol pot from Bike-Quip which cost $40 delivered. Only bought it as I didn't want to get tarred and feathered at STOCoberfest '18. :please1:
 
Just noodling out loud....
If this current version of “M77” is truly a “grease” and not “paste” as it is labeled, and if the service manual callout is to use paste (apart from grease); then there is reason to believe this was the correct lube for the final drive splines.

If in fact, the M77 MoS2 content is insufficient compared to the M60 for this application, there appears to be both a pattern of Honda service recommendations and product labeling misinformation going on here. If there is a hard linkage to drive damage as a result, pun intended, would this not constitute a basis for restitution or even a class action should it meet the requirements?

So too, could it be that the Honda is hush-hush about this lube is further evidence that they are aware of this situation and dont want to wake the beast. Just sayin.

Note the callout as “paste” on the tube I bought a week ago. Maybe they are quitely replacing the M-77 with the low MoS2 content with the newer version (with “CH” part# suffix) which is also known as PST-77.
 

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Go back to the beginning of this thread and look at the pictures Andrew posted, as well as others....
This product (both red/white and white tube with label) are to be used where GREASE is called for.
Service manual clearly shows (2) grease gun pictures, one for Grease, and one for Paste.
I didn't know Acura's or Honda cars have driveshaft splines (designed for comment on label) :rofl1:
 
So the Honda directive is to use M77 paste where the service manual calls out for grease

clear as mud

and probably as good as it too.

:rolleyes:

Oh and PST-77 paste (with same part number as M77 with a CH suffix) replaces M60 paste. Andrews PDF calls this new M60 replacement a paste, but the package label says grease.
The gang that cant shoot straight
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Anywho,
per someone’s recommendation, this will relpace M77 (non-CH) on BeaSTie in a week or so.
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the manual is clear on when to use paste and when to use grease, the problem we found when researching some of the alternatives is the lubrication industry tends to use the terms grease and paste somewhat randomly. For example, the latest version with the CH part suffix is labeled as 'grease' on the tube, but is actually a paste.
 
dwalby said:
the manual is clear on when to use paste and when to use grease, the problem we found when researching some of the alternatives is the lubrication industry tends to use the terms grease and paste somewhat randomly. For example, the latest version with the CH part suffix is labeled as 'grease' on the tube, but is actually a paste.
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of course loose terminology obsfucation amplified this situation

And yet Honda labels, recommends and sells M77 as a paste, which taken literally will result in misapplication as a paste and eventual premature spline wear - unless some tech order clears this up. How is this not malpractice.

and as lady luck would have it, my local Honda store would have the mud and not the gold
 
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AV8R said:
Deja Vu for you
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Well yeah that's why I posted it. :rofl1: But my bad. I started reading this post from #1 and it seems like the fourth or fifth time around in the same thread.
 
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AV8R said:
per someone’s recommendation, this will relpace M77 (non-CH) on BeaSTie in a week or so.
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That's what I've been using for around 5 years now.
 
Uncle Phil said:
+10 - Me also on all three ST1100s. :D
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Uncle Phil, You're a much respected man of great influence.
Just a suggestion, half serious, maybe. Every new member must sign an agreement never to mention the word, "Moly", and write out a thousand times I will only use loctite. What do you think?
Upt'North.
 
Upt' North said:
Uncle Phil, You're a much respected man of great influence.
Just a suggestion, half serious, maybe. Every new member must sign an agreement never to mention the word, "Moly", and write out a thousand times I will only use loctite. What do you think?
Upt'North.
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Ah my friend, it would be a bit like herding cats .... a futile exercise! :D
 
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John OoSTerhuis said:
Just my opinion, but having used moly paSTe and moly grease for years, the laST thing I’d want is an aerosol spray version! JuST using a brush the darn naSTy STuff ends up places I don’t want it. A spray can would be a disaSTer in my garage!! :eek:

John
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LOL.. I stepped on a small drop of it and tracked it in the house then one of the dogs stepped on that... ugh.. that was a fiasco trying to figure who did what..
 
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