Re: ctx 1300
Doesn't say anything about cruise control?????
Doesn't say anything about cruise control?????
2014 Honda CTX1300
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Re: ctx 1300
It is not available until April in the US & Honda does not mention cruise control but it Should. It should also come with the dual clutch transmission but that would require a redesign of some major components on the engine. I hope they sell a ton of them but I doubt it.
It is not available until April in the US & Honda does not mention cruise control but it Should. It should also come with the dual clutch transmission but that would require a redesign of some major components on the engine. I hope they sell a ton of them but I doubt it.
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Re: ctx 1300
A nice feature, where applicable, is that one can buy a CTX-700 as well as a CTX-1300, for possibly a his and hers situation. One for the ego, the other for the sweet practicality! Nice looking, under the tree or in the stable!
A nice feature, where applicable, is that one can buy a CTX-700 as well as a CTX-1300, for possibly a his and hers situation. One for the ego, the other for the sweet practicality! Nice looking, under the tree or in the stable!
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Re: ctx 1300
I think Mellow would probably say the underlying theme of the forum is more about the members, not the bikes they ride.
I think Mellow would probably say the underlying theme of the forum is more about the members, not the bikes they ride.
Re: ctx 1300
Well, I guess it's not intended to be the next ST so comparisons may be out of order.
Nice motor, tho.
pete
Well, I guess it's not intended to be the next ST so comparisons may be out of order.
Nice motor, tho.
pete
Re: ctx 1300
It may not be THE replacement for the ST13, but it is A replacement, and from what I can tell, the CTX13 is a modified ST13 and not a new from-the-ground-up bike.
Kinda interesting that that the ST13 is quite the opposite. For 10 years, the moto press complained that the ST13 from the front looked like a maxi-scooter.
Re: ctx 1300
Well, OK then. Maybe Honda built a brand new bike that just happens to share a whole bunch of characteristics with the ST13. Like the same apparent chassis dimensions from swingarm pivot location to headstock location. A similar aluminum frame (unlike the CTX700 which is tube steel). The same wheel sizes (rear rim is slightly wider, but 18 inch front is the same. Basically the same brake rotors (rear rotor is larger than the front rotors - an unusual feature of the ST13). The same fork travel and size (CTX13 is inverted). The same footpegs. The same fuel tank location (enlarged for the CTX13 by stretching the swingarm and switching from a monoshock to dual shocks - yes, I know, the upper fuel tank has been eliminated). Basically, the same weight. Clearly, the same engine (reworked for a higher torque, lower top end, lower compression ratio). The same 5 speed gearbox (with new gear ratios) note - not a 6-speed like the CTX700. What appears to the same shaft drive (stretched) with the same final drive. Basically, the same display data (STILL does not have a gear indicator) but with added playlist on the deluxe version. Maybe the ST13 was so good that they couldn't improve on it that much.
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Re: ctx 1300
Shares parts perhaps, but characteristics? The things that determine how a bike rides are all different: rake, trail, wheelbase, seat height, rider position, protection from elements, location of fuel tank, center of gravity, etc.. And as for the frame, any similarity ends with the material used to make it. The CTX cradles and surrounds the engine in the frame while the ST makes the engine a stressed part of the frame.
Shares parts perhaps, but characteristics? The things that determine how a bike rides are all different: rake, trail, wheelbase, seat height, rider position, protection from elements, location of fuel tank, center of gravity, etc.. And as for the frame, any similarity ends with the material used to make it. The CTX cradles and surrounds the engine in the frame while the ST makes the engine a stressed part of the frame.
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As for the rest of it, I totally agree. Steering angle, center of gravity, bodywork are all different. It will feel like a completely different motorcycle. But I am sure that it is based on a modified ST13.
I think that this is dead wrong. Have you looked at pictures of the CTX1300? It is nothing like the CTX700. I am sure that the CTX13 uses the engine as a stressed part of the frame, just like the ST13.
As for the rest of it, I totally agree. Steering angle, center of gravity, bodywork are all different. It will feel like a completely different motorcycle. But I am sure that it is based on a modified ST13.
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Re: ctx 1300
From Honda: The basic frame of the CTX1300 is an orthodox double cradle frame in the Frame Overview section. There're pictures there too
Re: ctx 1300
Whatever it is, it isn't a ST, sport tourer....cruiser is what I call forward controls.....2 cents......ff
Whatever it is, it isn't a ST, sport tourer....cruiser is what I call forward controls.....2 cents......ff
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Re: ctx 1300
What intrigues me is the relationship (theoretically) between the foot-forward pegs and the contour of the seat. Traditionally, footrests have been placed more or less under or slightly forward of the seat, and for good reason. That's because such placement is much easier on the rider's lower back, as opposed to having one's feet well forward, cruiser style. In my experience however, the aching back resulting from the cruiser position can be pretty much, if not entirely, eliminated by a simple backrest. This is where the CTX1300 seat contour caught my eye. Will the hump at the rear of the seat give enough support to the lower back to make the bike comfortable for significant distance? I'm doubtful.
What intrigues me is the relationship (theoretically) between the foot-forward pegs and the contour of the seat. Traditionally, footrests have been placed more or less under or slightly forward of the seat, and for good reason. That's because such placement is much easier on the rider's lower back, as opposed to having one's feet well forward, cruiser style. In my experience however, the aching back resulting from the cruiser position can be pretty much, if not entirely, eliminated by a simple backrest. This is where the CTX1300 seat contour caught my eye. Will the hump at the rear of the seat give enough support to the lower back to make the bike comfortable for significant distance? I'm doubtful.
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Someone else pointed out that the foot peg position is more or less the same as it is on the Gold Wing.
CTX 1300
Am I missing something...are we not looking at the ST replacement here?
CTX 1300, featuring our beloved (ST 1300) 4
maybe a slightly modified touring version is right around the corner...with perhaps a little more wind protection and a tweek or two.
Have not noticed much conversation on our site about the CTX 1300...available in US and Canada
Seasons greetings to all
Am I missing something...are we not looking at the ST replacement here?
CTX 1300, featuring our beloved (ST 1300) 4
maybe a slightly modified touring version is right around the corner...with perhaps a little more wind protection and a tweek or two.
Have not noticed much conversation on our site about the CTX 1300...available in US and Canada
Seasons greetings to all
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Re: CTX 1300
I think it's safe to say we are not...just our familiar V4 finding a home in a different motorcycle. Word from Honda sources is we'll be waiting "a long time" for a new ST.
I think it's safe to say we are not...just our familiar V4 finding a home in a different motorcycle. Word from Honda sources is we'll be waiting "a long time" for a new ST.
Re: CTX 1300
No we are not. Honda has made it pretty clear what market this bike was designed for and it's not the people who want an ST. It uses the same engine with different performance characteristics.
Honda could drop the ST never to produced. Some people might adapt the CTX to replace it. Dropping one model and marketing another is not the same as replacing. The ST is neither a sport bike nor touring bike but a blend of the two. The CTX is neither a sport bike or touring bike or a blend of the two. It's more a cruiser hybrid a "bagger" that could be turning into a something approaching a sport-touringish blend depending on the rider.
I think it will handle better than it's been given credit for. We should know more once there are some in-depth riding tests.
No we are not. Honda has made it pretty clear what market this bike was designed for and it's not the people who want an ST. It uses the same engine with different performance characteristics.
Honda could drop the ST never to produced. Some people might adapt the CTX to replace it. Dropping one model and marketing another is not the same as replacing. The ST is neither a sport bike nor touring bike but a blend of the two. The CTX is neither a sport bike or touring bike or a blend of the two. It's more a cruiser hybrid a "bagger" that could be turning into a something approaching a sport-touringish blend depending on the rider.
I think it will handle better than it's been given credit for. We should know more once there are some in-depth riding tests.