"New" Rotella T6 5W-40 clutch slips

STDaveNW said:
I hate these threads ...
Scares me
I just dumped the new T6 in 3 bikes... ST1300, VFR800, and Triumph Sprint ST.
So far no sign of any issues.:shrug2:
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I used that Rotella for the first time in my ST1300 just this last Friday. I noticed immediately that my bike SEEMED to be shifting much smoother, but I didn't experience any clutch issues. I had used Motul the two previous oil changes. But my bike seems to like the Rotella better....so I'll keep using it.
 
New thread to me too Dejango. I joined this group one day after this thread went into hiatus.
Did the OP remedy the clutch slippage issue?
 
Django said:
I noticed that a lot of comments about Dead oil threads and outside of the fact that I was taught that if you ain't got something good or constructive to say, don't say anything. Some Riders don't know, BUT WANT TO KNOW. REALIZE THAT AN OLDER news paper is NEW if you've never read it. STOP Hating
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The "stop hating" missive is old and overused. No one here has "hated" on anything. So relax.
 
Django said:
I noticed that a lot of comments about Dead oil threads and outside of the fact that I was taught that if you ain't got something good or constructive to say, don't say anything. Some Riders don't know, BUT WANT TO KNOW. REALIZE THAT AN OLDER news paper is NEW if you've never read it. STOP Hating
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No harm intended, and the three or four of us who posted are not haters - and often post constructive information about oil, batteries, tires, and, yes, moly paste. One point. Old newspapers are yesterday's news, and there are updates not found in older newspapers. For example, Rotella has been successfully used until maybe the last year or so with few to no problems. Shell only recently removed the JASO label from their oils, and today, many otherwise often used oils in ST's are now energy conserving and therefore harmful to our wet clutches.

Try finding the most recently dated thread on a given subject (or at least note how old the thread is) when you read it. Given how fast things change, I would want a lot more recent info than something posted 6 years ago. Especially regarding oil, batteries, tires, and moly.

It is also instructive to read the threads here and try to understand WHY something is no good or no longer good in our bikes. The OP for the 2014 oil thread did not discuss the energy conserving label on some oils (it was mentioned later on), nor did the discussion include the vairous oil approval stickers to look for. All of this information is available on this website - in other threads. All that is necessary is a search and some time reading the older threads before asking a question.
 
accordvtec77 said:
I used that Rotella for the first time in my ST1300 just this last Friday. I noticed immediately that my bike SEEMED to be shifting much smoother, but I didn't experience any clutch issues. I had used Motul the two previous oil changes. But my bike seems to like the Rotella better....so I'll keep using it.
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I don't know if Rotella is still good for our bikes or not. I suggest you read some of the oil threads - you can either search for 'oil' or the brand you want or go to the blue band at the top of this page: Forums > Technical > Cleaning, Oil, Maintenance and browse through the titles. It is important for you, the user, to know what to look for. The old energy conserving oval is gone now on many brands, and if it is not JASO 2 approved (was that JASO M2, guys?), you should probably pass on that sample of oil. (I tend to stick with Honda GN4 in my bike, but that's just my choice.) Using the wrong oil can ruin your clutch and require new clutch plates, and its easy to be able to id what is good or what is no good.
 
SMSW said:
and if it is not JASO 2 approved (was that JASO M2, guys?), you should probably pass on that sample of oil.
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There's a thread about the JASO "approved" label, and why companies do / do not apply for it.

If you look on the container, it may read, "meets or exceeds JASO [2] specifications".

If Shell has that language, it's good enough for me.

If you're looking at a container of "Joe's[1] Good 'Ol Boy Oil", and it reads "meets or exceeds JASO [2] specifications", I'd no doubt pass on it.

EDIT... found on back of my jug of Rotella T6

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[1] Not OUR Joe, here : )
 
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I find an interesting dichotomy on forums.

On one hand, we tell new comers to search the forum to find their answers. Okay...

Then after repeating that ad nauseum, we find that the forum has no activity. Why we wonder. Maybe it has to do with people using the search function.

You can't have it both ways. I can't think of a question that hasn't been asked and answered on a motorcycle forum several times over. Especially on bikes that have been around this long. :D

Chris
 
caldercay said:
If you're looking at a container of "Joe's[1] Good 'Ol Boy Oil", and it reads "meets or exceeds JASO [2] specifications", I'd no doubt pass on it.
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Hey now!

If you use the same special blend of oil that I use (once explained to me by a guy named Joe... maybe the same Joe?), I'm told that you'll have an oil that'll meet every standard in existence or that ever will exist!

He used a lot of big words, so he had to be right! Read all about it!
 
do you use $ynthetic or regular ?

One of the reasons Rotella T6 is so popular is because of its price relative to other synthetics. $22 for a 5 gallon jug (comes to 4.5 / qt). Honda, mobile 1, valvoline, etc are only available in quart sizes and hence the increased price. Valvoline is the cheapest at 7.35 /qt at walmart. I used that this time around.
 
In my day, we used to ressurect old threads for fun. On different forums mind you, but it was fun to watch people get riled up over expired stuff.
 
If you don't like folks reviving old oil threads, don't click on them. It's really pretty simple. And yes, Rotella T6 5w40 is fine to use in your ST.
 
You guys made me paranoid of my Rotella T4, so I had to go check the certs again. Still JASO MA/MA2.
 
T4 (standard) is marked as "meets the requirements of". T6 (full synthetic) is marked the same.

T5 (synthetic blend) is NOT marked as meeting the requirements.

FYI
 
SMSW said:
No harm intended, and the three or four of us who posted are not haters - and often post constructive information about oil, batteries, tires, and, yes, moly paste. One point. Old newspapers are yesterday's news, and there are updates not found in older newspapers. For example, Rotella has been successfully used until maybe the last year or so with few to no problems. Shell only recently removed the JASO label from their oils, and today, many otherwise often used oils in ST's are now energy conserving and therefore harmful to our wet clutches.

Try finding the most recently dated thread on a given subject (or at least note how old the thread is) when you read it. Given how fast things change, I would want a lot more recent info than something posted 6 years ago. Especially regarding oil, batteries, tires, and moly.

It is also instructive to read the threads here and try to understand WHY something is no good or no longer good in our bikes. The OP for the 2014 oil thread did not discuss the energy conserving label on some oils (it was mentioned later on), nor did the discussion include the vairous oil approval stickers to look for. All of this information is available on this website - in other threads. All that is necessary is a search and some time reading the older threads before asking a question.
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Understood. I just happened to be ready for the 1st oil change on the 2003 ST1300 I recently purchased with 73k on the clock and the last thing I want to undo is the reliability of obviously over designed engineering. This is my ninth consecutive Honda motorcycle purchase and avid user of AMSOIL which has never failed. So as I read so many opinions about Rotella, which I've only known for use in my cousin's tractor trailer, I was wondering if it's a diesel oil, being used in motorcycles. I don't know, so I'm asking, is Rotella, AMSOIL or Honda oil the Best for a 03 St1300........help. changing oil, filter, and final drive oil in the morning. Would appreciate the help
 
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