AZ 2005 build - Are you ready for another one?

DeanR said:
For those that have used the Gates Theromplastic clamps, I'm guessing they likely should not be used for hoses that may need to be removed in the future. Such as radiator hoses for potential radiator removal.

I've read that a soldering iron is a good way to remove if necessary.
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I use them on the large radiator hoses on the front cover and the thermostat. I don't use them on the radiator.

To remove them I just very carefully use a utility knife and don't mar the connections. A pencil soldering might be worth trying. :unsure-2x:
 
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DeanR said:
For those that have used the Gates Theromplastic clamps, I'm guessing they likely should not be used for hoses that may need to be removed in the future. Such as radiator hoses for potential radiator removal.

I've read that a soldering iron is a good way to remove if necessary.
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I only use them on the Rad hoses. When I have had to remove one, I just cut it off, carefully with a utility knife and have another new one ready to install. They work really slick
 
This was my first go around with the Gates Thermo Clamps. I tried using silicon hoses and the small thermo clamps (circled in yellow) and they did not hold. So I went back to OEM hoses (for everything) and used screw clamps for the small hoses. Later is when I found the fuel injector clamps for the small hoses.

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I pulled off the radiator and the front cover, it looks a heck of a lot better, than the 06 front cover!

05 front cover:
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06 Front cover:

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I'll be using the 05 front cover! ;)

Time to order parts!
 
Sidekick said:
I admire the way you are doing the job, clean everywhere, well organized and these great pictures will be very useful for others. :thumb:
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Thanks. I also document, so I can remember just what I did to the bike. My other bikes are out on my website:

Bob's ST1300 bikes & Restores
 
Made a little progress on removing parts on the '05. That throttlebody was the hardest one for me to get popped loose. But I gave it a bit of a nudge with a 4lbs sledgehammer! :weight1:

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And I got the parts ordered. just around $500 in parts. I'm sure glad I had on hand, what I did! :cool:
 
I would call that brute force. Just make sure you have all the bolts and nuts off, before using BF. Really happy I have a 1100 looks a lot easier to work on.
 
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St-Gerard said:
I would call that brute. Just make sure you have all the bolts and nuts off, before using BF. Really happy I have a 1100 looks a lot easier to work on.
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Well, I had that ST1100 here for about 6 months, and also, since I have worked on the ST1300s like I have, I find the ST1300 easier to work on. I guess it's just what you are used to. :unsure-2x:
 
SupraSabre said:
Well, I had that ST1100 here for about 6 months, and also, since I have worked on the ST1300s like I have, I find the ST1300 easier to work on. I guess it's just what you are used to. :unsure-2x:
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That was supposed to say brute force, familiarity does make things easier. Now if we could teach car makers that it would be a wonderful world.
 
Thanks for documenting this so well with excellent quality photos. Somehow, because of that, I am certain now, since I have issue with alternator, that my st will be a project naked conversion for the next two years.
 
onlyforamoment said:
Thanks for documenting this so well with excellent quality photos. Somehow, because of that, I am certain now, since I have issue with alternator, that my st will be a project naked conversion for the next two years.
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Getting down, past the throttlebody, usually isn't that hard. But, maybe because that bike has been mostly ridden & sat, in the hot desert, for all those years, it made the insulators very hard and the throttlebody was stuck it them.

I will be using a different throttlebody and new insulators when I put the 06 engine in it.
 
These insulators are never keen on letting the throttle body go. I always need to use pry bar to pull them out.
Different throttle body as in from another donor st or fabricated from another bike?
 
onlyforamoment said:
These insulators are never keen on letting the throttle body go. I always need to use pry bar to pull them out.
Different throttle body as in from another donor st or fabricated from another bike?
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I had a couple of throttlebodies (bought off ebay, years ago) in my parts bins. When I first bought the 06, I swapped out the throttlebody with one of those, (and that will be the one I'll use) which allowed me to start and run the 06 engine.

I'm not about to use old dried out ones. So I ordered 4 new insulators for the build.
 
Got some more stripped out of the 05 yesterday. The lower bolt on the alternator is not giving up anytime soon, so I might have to wait until the engine is out of the bike to pull it. I also had to use the BFS (Big Freaking Screwdriver) to remove the oil filter. That sucker was on tight! It seems I've had more issues getting this bike apart than any others I've had! :censored:

I'm thinking of removing the heads, to make it easier to remove the engine from the frame. Time will tell.

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I know this is no monkey bike, but whenever I look at your photos amazement comes to me of how much stuff there is on it. All these wiring, hoses, bits'n'bobs, subframes, brackets ect. This thing is packed, like someone chopped off two wheels from a regular passenger car and called it a day. I didn't get that sensation when was converting my f4i into naked.
 
Obo said:
@SupraSabre Your oil filter issue is why I try to buy the slightly longer aftermarket ones with a welded hex head on the back, so you can get a socket on them.

This isn't the exact part#, I just grabbed the photo to show the nut.

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204 is the correct number. ;)

I have been using the K&N 204s (when I moved to Cedar City, just over 4 years ago, I had a stock of 20 oil filters.) for my ST1300s for years, and THAT is exactly why!

Because my stock got down to 6, I picked up 5 of this brand for others ST1300s and I'll use the K&N on my bikes! ;)
 
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onlyforamoment said:
I know this is no monkey bike, but whenever I look at your photos amazement comes to me of how much stuff there is on it. All these wiring, hoses, bits'n'bobs, subframes, brackets ect. This thing is packed, like someone chopped off two wheels from a regular passenger car and called it a day. I didn't get that sensation when was converting my f4i into naked.
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Yeah, there's all sorts of "stuff" on these bikes and when I'm putting it back together, I need to remember (lots of pictures taken) where everything goes! :unsure-2x:
 
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