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. That was a typo. Meant to say 5 qt jug. Therefore price would be 4.40 / qt. Still $3 per qt cheaper than valvoline at 7.37 / qt. I have stayed away from Rotella T6, because diesel oils have a much higher amount of caustic in them.
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. That was a typo. Meant to say 5 qt jug. Therefore price would be 4.40 / qt. Still $3 per qt cheaper than valvoline at 7.37 / qt. I have stayed away from Rotella T6, because diesel oils have a much higher amount of caustic in them.
Django, if you've used the same oil in 9 Honda Motorcycles and have been pleased with the results, I think you have your answer. But it was fun, whilst it lasted.
Upt'North.
Thank you.
I've not done a survey, but I suspect we have quite a few Joe's.
This forum has a LOT of activity. Just look at the 'What's New' forum and the number of replies. Given how frequently some of our guys respond, one has to wonder if they are typing as they ride... Just look at the number of responses you got to your original question.
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I've only seen the 1gal. jugs. 5qt would bug me with always having a quart left over. I can just pour a whole 1gal in and use the empty for the old oil.
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Yes, that oil would work.
The reason why the 'old timers moan on another oil thread is that with hundred of thousands of posts on this website and millions of miles racked up on Honda STs the only consistent thing noticed is that ST engines work very reliably.
Igofar has done some actual research and had several brands of oil sent of for testing after being in a bike.
Outside of that, actual measurable results, it's all personal opinion.
One person says every 3k miles and never had a problem while another says every 10k and never a problem, another says synthetic, another says dino.
FYI, it's all synthetic, none of it exists as it came out of mother nature.
Change regularly with whatever gives you peace of mind. I personally follow the change interval recommend by MOM, I don't use her recommend oil but I do use the weight/temp chart.
YMMV!
I'm wrong again. It is a 4 qt jug and sells for $21 at walmart. So 5.25 /qt. Thanks for the correction.
Well, called the dealership and inquired about oils. Was told to go with AMSOIL, which is cool what I used prior in other bikes. Was very surprised that it did ACTUALLY SHIFT SMOOTHER. Had no idea it could get better than it was. Thanks for all the help and advice, have a great weekend
Is that a tenderizing technique for preparing steaks?
If you like a nice flank steak!
Any bike will shift better after an oil change, with whatever oil you put in it....until it starts running in, or breaking down.
I don't trust marketing, advertising, or what somebody is trying to sell, as being the best. I want test results.
And like T_C pointed out, I've spent hundreds of dollars over the years with UOA tests etc.
Amsoil, Motul, Redline, Royal Purple, Mobil 1, Valvoline sync, Honda, Yamalube, Suzuki and Kawasaki oil etc.
And just about every major brand of automobile oil (before it was changed to resource conserving etc.).
ANY of the name brand diesel oils, Chevron, Mobil, Shell, Motorcraft, Valvoline etc. Did just as good as the pyramid scam oils
In MY bikes, Valvoline Premium blue, Chevron Delo 400, or Shell Rotella T (15w-40) did better than Amsoil and Mobil 1 MC oil.
Change it every 4 or 5k miles and your bike will out live you.
Money spent on boutique oil would be better spent on gas and Pies
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ANY of the name brand diesel oils, Chevron, Mobil, Shell, Motorcraft, Valvoline etc. Did just as good as the pyramid scam oils
Damn, so Amway's in the oil business now??
Nope, Amsoil comes from dinosaurs grown in Amsterdam.Damn, so Amway's in the oil business now??
Maybe I should have replied with a little more clarity. I've never felt such a NOTICIBLE change in shifting, engine smoothness or sounds as I did by by changing to synthetic. Had switched to synthetic in More than 12 different bikes prior to my ST purchase and never was the outcome of an oil change so NOTICIBLE. I'm sure I'll try other oils in the future, that said, but at a time when other oils outperform AMSOIL. I'm not a brand loyalist, I'm a result analyst, and being in motorcycle repair shops on a regular basis, you see the end results of certain maintenance practices.Any bike will shift better after an oil change, with whatever oil you put in it....until it starts running in, or breaking down.
I don't trust marketing, advertising, or what somebody is trying to sell, as being the best. I want test results.
And like T_C pointed out, I've spent hundreds of dollars over the years with UOA tests etc.
Amsoil, Motul, Redline, Royal Purple, Mobil 1, Valvoline sync, Honda, Yamalube, Suzuki and Kawasaki oil etc.
And just about every major brand of automobile oil (before it was changed to resource conserving etc.).
ANY of the name brand diesel oils, Chevron, Mobil, Shell, Motorcraft, Valvoline etc. Did just as good as the pyramid scam oils
In MY bikes, Valvoline Premium blue, Chevron Delo 400, or Shell Rotella T (15w-40) did better than Amsoil and Mobil 1 MC oil.
Change it every 4 or 5k miles and your bike will out live you.
Money spent on boutique oil would be better spent on gas and Pies
Shawn K
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For comparison, what was and how long, previous oil in the bike?
Had I garnered just 5 responses that leaned toward another brand consistently, I would have tried that brand. Trust me, at $60 an oil change ,not counting the cost of the filter, I'm definitely looking for something less expensive. But not willing to sacrifice The piece of mind that comes with knowing you've never ever had a problem with a product. Which oil do you use and why do you favor it? Not sure about most, but go through 4 rear tires a year. Riding is something I do every single day, barring snow or black ice. At least 4 2k mile a year, so I'm always looking for the best for any of my bikes. Riding from New Haven CT to Cali to Mexico and back this fall, so I'm asking, what oil has tested to be the best? Cost doesn't matter, I just want the best.Says the man who has used the same oil in his last nine motorcycles.
My 89 pc800 Pacific coast was sold to a guy who flew to California and rode it back to Maine, it had 300,000 miles on it when I sold it, and was still running like a top.
Last I heard it now has over 400,000 on it and still not burning any oil.
My 06 Harley Heritage Springer had 342,000 miles on the stock motor and was still within specs...both of them used Chevron delo 400 from new.
My ST is approaching 100,000 and has diesel oil in it as you read this.
These motors will run forever using any good quality oil, i for one just found after several UOA tests that many of the 15w-40 HDEO's did better than all the motorcycle oils I've tested, so for ME it's what I run.
I don't think you will ever find "what's best"
A couple members on here ran golden spectro motorcycle oil because their shop said it was the best...only to find later, that delo 400 ran better, lasted longer, and saved a lot of money for gas etc.
Pick an oil, use it and ride your bike.
Last I heard it now has over 400,000 on it and still not burning any oil.
My 06 Harley Heritage Springer had 342,000 miles on the stock motor and was still within specs...both of them used Chevron delo 400 from new.
My ST is approaching 100,000 and has diesel oil in it as you read this.
These motors will run forever using any good quality oil, i for one just found after several UOA tests that many of the 15w-40 HDEO's did better than all the motorcycle oils I've tested, so for ME it's what I run.
I don't think you will ever find "what's best"
A couple members on here ran golden spectro motorcycle oil because their shop said it was the best...only to find later, that delo 400 ran better, lasted longer, and saved a lot of money for gas etc.
Pick an oil, use it and ride your bike.
Shawn K
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It can be hard to hit a moving target.
Since you have used the same oil in your last nine motorcycles, seem to be pleased with the results, want the best, and aren't concerned about cost, it would seem that you already have an answer.
Or he could break out of his rut, stop believing all the marketing stuff, use just about any good brand of diesel oil, and find it shifts just as good, if not better, runs quieter, and his oil change cost would be about $20 including a filter.
Or he could still be spending all that money on his pyramid brand oil and not be able to ride as much as he likes.
Bottom line, nobody here is going to keep their bike long enough to wear it out, or have an oil related issue due to any oil they use
Or he could still be spending all that money on his pyramid brand oil and not be able to ride as much as he likes.
Bottom line, nobody here is going to keep their bike long enough to wear it out, or have an oil related issue due to any oil they use