Zumo 595LM, iPhone and Sena SMH10R

JPrieST said:
So given that this is the correct sequence, do you know a way to play audio from an app on my phone?
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Once your phone is connected to the Zumo via Bluetooth you can select Apps and then Media Player. In the upper left corner of the Media Player screen hit the menu button. Here you can choose your phone as the media source. After that play the media you choose on your phone.
 
I pair mine like Joel and Joe above do. Phone to GPS. GPS to BT. It doesn't affect anything regarding any pairing with other Sena riders. The biggest thing that affects pairing with other Sena riders, is that they don't usually know how to do it. :D But that's a different issue entirely.

I tried to use the Sena BT to phone pairing without the GPS and every time I've ended up frustrated.
  • First, it interferes with pairing to the GPS when I want to use it.
  • Second, it never seems to hear me tell it to play music, or call, or whatever.
In the end, I've found it far more convenient to simply use the GPS all the time. I can see who is calling and if I want to answer it or not. Music is far easier to play through the GPS controls than it is without the GPS.

You have two choices on where and how to play your music. The best solution for me was to put a small SD card into the GPS with my music on it.

Here's the info from the owner's manual:
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One of the most important things I found, was to learn how to change the Media Source. You'll find a number of choices there to experiment with.

As I said, the best solution for me was to transfer the music files I wanted to an SD card and put that in the Garmin GPS. When I tried to play from my phone, it broke up. Maybe it was because the phone was old. Maybe because the Sena BT headset was old. All I know was that I was transferring music from my Phone ---> GPS ---> Sena BT and that extra transfer just wasn't working smooth. I have a new phone now and new BT headset, so maybe it would work better if I were to try it again.

Chris
 
There is one other technical issue that needs to be considered when pairing a Bluetooth headset to a Garmin GPS, and that is what protocol is selected for the pairing.

Bluetooth headsets in general (by this I mean all Bluetooth headsets, including single-speaker over-the-ear models used for office telephone use as well as the two-speaker units designed for stereo sound in motorcycle helmets) can be paired using one of two protocols: Headset Protocol (HSP) or Advanced Audio Distribution Profile (A2DP). Headset Protocol delivers mono sound only, A2DP delivers stereo sound.

Since about 2010, all Garmin motorcycle GPS units have supported A2DP protocol. Any Bluetooth helmet speaker & microphone assembly that has two speakers (left and right) produced since about 2010 will also support A2DP. It is probable, but not certain, that A2DP will be the 'default' protocol that has been factory-set in both the headset and the GPS for pairing. If you are getting poor-quality sound from your headset, or monaural sound from your headset when listening to music, you might need to check and confirm that both the GPS and the headset are using A2DP protocol for pairing. Details about how to do this will be contained in the owner manual for both the GPS and the headset.

Sena makes a utility program called Sena Device Manager that can be used to update the firmware in Sena headsets and also change various settings of the Sena headset, including the choice of default pairing protocol (HSP or A2DP). You may wish to download this little app and use it to confirm that your headset is set to use A2DP for pairing.

Here are some links to further background information about this subject:

Bluetooth Headset Compatibility for zumo 590 and 595

Garmin Bluetooth A2DP (Advanced Audio Distribution Profile ), Zumo only option? (a very old post from our forum)

List of Bluetooth profiles - a very lengthy article - TMI for sure - from Wikipedia, but useful for providing specifications for HSP and A2DP.

At the link provided for the Sena Device Manager, you will also find a number of other Sena applications - unless you are an expert on the subject of Bluetooth pairing, profiles, making your headset work perfectly with your GPS, etc. I suggest you stay away from all Sena applications other than the Device Manager - otherwise, you will just dig yourself deeper into a hole.

Michael
 
Mellow said:
Correct... you don't want a headset connection to the phone AND the GPS.. You want the GPS to be your hub so to speak, everything pairs to it. Pairing the headset to 2 things - as in a phone pairing profile - will confuse things and it doesn't know what you want it to do so it probably cycles on/off. I just know it won't work that way.
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The BT Hub is where the 595LM (well at least mine) is falling flat on its face. It shouldn't be hard but I get constant disconnects. From looking at other forums, I am not alone. It would be one thing if it would disconnect and then reconnect shortly later. Many times I have to fiddle with things enough that I have to stop, get it going again and I start off only to have everything crash again.

Mellow said:
I may get one of these simply for the live track function.. that's not avail on the 590 and the cost of SPOT these days is ridiculous. I prefer using a gps for tracking vs cell network... for now.
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If the only thing you want is live track, I wouldn't go to a 595 to get it. My Garmin Tactix Charlie does it as does many other Garmin Watches.
 
ibike2havefun said:
One thing I did find interesting / useful was the speed indicator; when I was exceeding the posted limit the current speed box got shaded red. Not screaming, glaring red, just enough to make the point. A refinement would be to make that configurable- only start shading at some user-defined amount beyond the limit- rather than at 1 over.

If I had the Zumo mounted on the steering stem I'd be tempted to place it so it became the speedometer. But I like it up high on the dash so that's probably not going to happen.
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Wait, your speed limit changes colors other than red? Mine always seems to be red... :think1:

I use my 550 as my speedometer but have the 595 on the dash and keep an eye on what I should be doing.

Getting back to the alerts. Last fall there is a street I would turn on everyday on my way to work. It is a one way street. Well Garmin knew it was a one way but had the direction wrong. My 595 would light up and go crazy that I was going the wrong way down a one way. I submitted it as a map error and see with the updates over the winter that they fixed it. The alerts can be over the top but I have disabled most of them. It is fine letting me know about animal or RR crossing when on strange roads but when I use it on my commute it is over the top. I mainly mount it everyday because of TPMS and weather. I have had so many BT issues I don't bother pairing my Sena to it anymore.

I have seen where some people have gotten warranty replacements for some of these issues. Maybe I should try that route before my warranty is up.
 
This has been an extremely educational post. Thanks to everyone for their knowledge.

My ride yesterday went pretty well with the new Zumo. Spoken directions and the magenta line on the actual road. There were two small hiccups with the ride. One was routing and one was connectivity.
The routing issue was strange. Zumo wanted to send me straight (red arrow) when clearly my waypoint #5 was to the right. Going straight was half paved/half dirt and I do have Unpaved Roads turned off on the gps. I'm thinking maybe I need to move the waypoint further from the turn. That's what I used to do with the Nuvi.
The connectivity issue was that I was hearing the directions from Zumo. I was also hearing my music from the SIM card. I made a phone call from the gps but I never heard it ringing. Later I tried it again and I was able to hear the call. Strange.

I also have all of the Audible Rider Alerts turned off except for schools but they still show up on the screen. The upcoming curve warning is out of control especially when riding in the mountains. Can that be turned off completely?

All in all I think it's going to work out. I am able to create the route in MyRouteApp and upload to the Zumo without issue so I'm happy about that. Just have to keep trying test routes before a real trip.

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I use my Zumo all the time for some of the reasons you pointed out above. Plus, it is convenient. But like I told my girls years ago when they were beginning to drive and use a GPS to get around...use it on routes you know so you get familiar with it. Even at that, one of them was going to a job interview and the GPS told her to take the freeway when she knew she didn't have to...and while she was trying to figure out things, she rear-ended the car in front of her. At least she wasn't texting, and the damage while costly, wasn't really much. But that's the cost of collision repairs and a separate discussion.

I don't think you can turn off all the warnings, just those that you want audible. I ignore the curve warning. I chose the route I'm on specifically to get the curves. :D And railroad track warnings are okay...but I don't need an audible warning. Like you, I want the audible warning for the school zones.

Check your Bluetooth settings next time to see what services and devices are connected. That will give you the data to see why you didn't hear what you expected. My guess is the Sena and phone are still paired. But it could be something else.

As for routing, most of the time I have mine set up for Fastest route. I control the route by the waypoints I select. In the past, I've had an automobile GPS that didn't play well with intersection waypoints. It wouldn't tell me what direction to take after the intersection...untill I'd passed the intersection. I learned to make my waypoints past the intersection so the GPS would tell me to turn left, and then tell me my waypoint was 100 yds up the road. I'm wondering if you had it on Adventurous Routing when it tried to take you off on the semi-paved/gravel road???

Chris
 
Daboo said:
Check your Bluetooth settings next time to see what services and devices are connected. That will give you the data to see why you didn't hear what you expected. My guess is the Sena and phone are still paired. But it could be something else.

As for routing, most of the time I have mine set up for Fastest route. I control the route by the waypoints I select. In the past, I've had an automobile GPS that didn't play well with intersection waypoints. It wouldn't tell me what direction to take after the intersection...untill I'd passed the intersection. I learned to make my waypoints past the intersection so the GPS would tell me to turn left, and then tell me my waypoint was 100 yds up the road. I'm wondering if you had it on Adventurous Routing when it tried to take you off on the semi-paved/gravel road???

Chris
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I have unpaired the phone from the Sena. I now have the Sena paired to the Zumo and the phone paired to the Zumo in that order.

I agree that the waypoints should be after the turn so the gps tells you to turn that way. I have the Zumo set to fastest route and no Adventurous Routing. Just have to keep playing with it.

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So I have been spending a lot of my free time loading music onto the SIM card. Currently have 643 songs on it. I just happened to go to the card and noticed that some of my files are M4A files. Never even noticed when I was copying them over. My pc plays them through Windows Media Player. When I unplug the gps from the pc and turn it on to see the files in the media player I don't see the M4A song titles or even artist names. Does the gps only see mp3's? If not, is there a way to convert them for free?
I also noticed that some entire albums that I put on the SIM card having songs missing when I look at it when the gps is unplugged from the pc. When I plug it back in to the pc all the songs are in the folder for the album. In this case they are also all mp3 files. What's happening here?

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skipcurt said:
I also noticed that some entire albums that I put on the SIM card having songs missing when I look at it when the gps is unplugged from the pc. When I plug it back in to the pc all the songs are in the folder for the album. In this case they are also all mp3 files. What's happening here?
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There can be several causes for this, and it's difficult to diagnose which cause applies because we can't see how you accumulate and organize music on your computer.

A common cause is that the album title contained in the metadata of the song file is not exactly identical (to the letter, space, & period) on every file.

Are you storing the songs on the GPS within "album folders", or do you just have one huge folder with 643 songs on it?

Michael
 
I have 8 folders that contain 1 complete album each and one other folder that just has individual songs. The album folder is titled as The Artist - The Album Name.

I also found this pretty cool site that converts any file to any file...for free. They do have a daily limit though so it might take me a bit. It's called cloudconvert.com
 
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