What are these switches on 2011 1300 PA?
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Don't know about the indicated switches, but the up arrow on the front bracket is upside down. I wonder if it really matters, and if not, why is it marked as such?
ST Gui
240Robert
The top switch which rotates left or right is the Stop/Run/Stop switch.
The vertical slide switch on the left of the pod is the headlight switch. The bottom dot is all lights Off. The middle position is the Position Lights (the two small 194 bulbs on either side of the headlight) tail lights and speedometer and (tach?) lights. The top position includes the headlights.
The • 1 2 3 switch the 4 and 5 switches for the emergency lights and siren. These are individually configurable by each department depending on their lighting demands. For instance the • 1 2 3 switch might be wired to:
1) turn on just amber lights to the rear
2) turn on a red and blue light in the front (in CA a steady red and flashing blue) in addition to the already flashing ambers
3) 1+ 2 + all the side strobes additional strobes to the rear and continuously run the siren. Often the horn button is wired for intermittent use of the siren.
The switch is rated to handle different loads depending on particular countries. The round switch on the bottom is the starter button.
For civilian use, they can be wire any number of ways for any number of reasons - spot and fog auxiliary lights heated clothing switches etc. Relays may be needed to handle high current circuits but with LEDs they might not be necessary at all. There are members here that have both the left and right police switch pods.
The feature set of the switch pods may differ by year and country.
The bracket to the left with the arrow is upside down. IIRC properly installed the top portions of the two halves fit flush and the bottom is then tightened to hold the reservoir from turning on the handle bar. There's a gap at the bottom to allow for tightening without 'bottoming out' and allowing the lever and reservoir to twist on the bar.
The vertical slide switch on the left of the pod is the headlight switch. The bottom dot is all lights Off. The middle position is the Position Lights (the two small 194 bulbs on either side of the headlight) tail lights and speedometer and (tach?) lights. The top position includes the headlights.
The • 1 2 3 switch the 4 and 5 switches for the emergency lights and siren. These are individually configurable by each department depending on their lighting demands. For instance the • 1 2 3 switch might be wired to:
1) turn on just amber lights to the rear
2) turn on a red and blue light in the front (in CA a steady red and flashing blue) in addition to the already flashing ambers
3) 1+ 2 + all the side strobes additional strobes to the rear and continuously run the siren. Often the horn button is wired for intermittent use of the siren.
The switch is rated to handle different loads depending on particular countries. The round switch on the bottom is the starter button.
For civilian use, they can be wire any number of ways for any number of reasons - spot and fog auxiliary lights heated clothing switches etc. Relays may be needed to handle high current circuits but with LEDs they might not be necessary at all. There are members here that have both the left and right police switch pods.
The feature set of the switch pods may differ by year and country.
The bracket to the left with the arrow is upside down. IIRC properly installed the top portions of the two halves fit flush and the bottom is then tightened to hold the reservoir from turning on the handle bar. There's a gap at the bottom to allow for tightening without 'bottoming out' and allowing the lever and reservoir to twist on the bar.
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Steve398
... another retired Black Rat.
Hopefully this may help. They are the same switches that were fitted to the ST1100 and used for the various warning instruments on Police bikes - Blue lights front & rear, wailers etc. I have one of these switches at the back of my garage somewhere... just never got around to fitting it.
Did your bike come with a working horn? I recently bought an '09 that I am going through and converting to civilian. Mine does not have a horn nor the open wires for it. I am trying to find the wires and figure out a way to connect a horn.
On my non P 1300 there is a bolted 'arm' similar to what holds the preload adjuster to the frame for the horn. It hangs down from the right subframe that holds the 'nose of the bike - called the cowl stay and shown on this fiche. The wiring harness is wire tied to this arm (on my bike). PM either @AV8R, @Uncle Phil, @sirepair. They have police bikes but some are 1100's and I'm not sure how different they are.
I mounted a cop switch on my 2012, and I use the 0-1-2-3 for my headlight modulator (Off-Normal-On-nothing) I use the #4 for my fork mounted driving lights & #5 for my under the mirror flood lights.
These are "Just Switches" You can connect whatever you want to them! See if this helps!
These are "Just Switches" You can connect whatever you want to them! See if this helps!
Uncle Phil
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They are what ever you want them to be! 
When 2 is on, 1 & 2 is on, and when 3 is on, 1,2, & 3 are on.
I use mine for switching various things on my ST1100.
Somewhere buried in the ST1300 there will be two Hitachi plugs - one for the kill switch and main functions and one for the switches 1-5.
When 2 is on, 1 & 2 is on, and when 3 is on, 1,2, & 3 are on.
I use mine for switching various things on my ST1100.
Somewhere buried in the ST1300 there will be two Hitachi plugs - one for the kill switch and main functions and one for the switches 1-5.
ST Gui
240Robert
A factory horn on an ST1300P would be unnecessary by definition. As is they're next to worthless on any ST unless maybe if you're in the garage and you need kids or dogs to get out of the way. On the street yelling is louder than the meeper.
So Honda wisely leaves it off and takes the cost savings and invests that into making the ode and speedo accurate.
Surprised no one had a picture of the connections in the rear of the radio hood area where the front switches can be tapped into. This is how I connected up my siren controller to the switches.
for my Popo bike....
Right grip switches:
(1-2-3 is a 3 position slide switch where 1 and 2 are detent and 3 is momentary)
1: Rear code3 lights (dont use forward code3 until traffic light is green)
2: Front and rear code3 lights
3: Code3 lights and wail siren mode
4: Front pod alley/fog lights with wig-wag rocker switch
5: Phaser siren mode push in/out toggle switch
Left grip switch:
(OEM horn is unplugged)
Horn: Yelp siren mode momentary switch
for my Popo bike....
Right grip switches:
(1-2-3 is a 3 position slide switch where 1 and 2 are detent and 3 is momentary)
1: Rear code3 lights (dont use forward code3 until traffic light is green)
2: Front and rear code3 lights
3: Code3 lights and wail siren mode
4: Front pod alley/fog lights with wig-wag rocker switch
5: Phaser siren mode push in/out toggle switch
Left grip switch:
(OEM horn is unplugged)
Horn: Yelp siren mode momentary switch
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So, you're saying that a speedometer from an ST1100P would read correctly on my ST1100?
With Cop Speedometers on my 2010 & 2004#2, they read right on to 50MPH, then by 80MPH, they were off by 2MPH. This was according to my GPS.
According to mine, it's off by almost 10% across the dial; the faster I'm going, the higher-than-actual it reads.
Anyone know where I can get a police-model speedo?
Anyone know where I can get a police-model speedo?
My popo speedo is spot on with my Garmin GPS at all speeds Ive measured. The speedo has 2 mph increments, which I guess is as accurate as they cared to be held accountable to, could fit on the dial, and would be reasonable for reading the dial from various angles on a moving bike.
The HUD I use has a speed adjustment, so I made it match the bike’s readings.
From time to time, a STP’s dash comes up for sale. Technically its illegal to change the odometer reading on a vehicle, so heads up if the whole dash is used.
The HUD I use has a speed adjustment, so I made it match the bike’s readings.
From time to time, a STP’s dash comes up for sale. Technically its illegal to change the odometer reading on a vehicle, so heads up if the whole dash is used.
Not if the bike came without one! Both 2010 & 2004#2 came wrecked without speedometers! No laws broken!
eBay usually has a cop speedometer. BUT, just because they say it came off or is a ST1300P speedometer, doesn't mean it is. Many non cop bikes were converted to cop bikes, but their speedometers were not. Only if it has the hash marks every two MPH, I would say it was a cop speedometer. Note the difference!
Non Cop Speedometer:
Cop Speedometer:
ST Gui
240Robert
No I'm not.Larry Fine said:
Awww. Why not? It has to be done on the bike? Tire would be the only variable.
ST Gui
240Robert
You might want to direct your questions and suppositions to someone who's actually put cop meters on a non-cop bike.
Seems to me that as long as the wheel and tires are the same radius and profile respectively, the speedometer wouldn’t know any the wiser which ST1300 model it was connected to. But as ST GUI said, SS and IGOFAR are probably they who have gone down this path.
With Honda there could be several variables... Putting a cop speedometer on a non cop bike variables (unknown?):
Checking Partzilla:
PGM-FI UNIT (ECM) (non Cop) 38770-MCS-R12 - (Cop) 38770-MCS-R21 -- different...
SENSOR ASSY., SPEED (non Cop) 37700-MCS-003 - (Cop) 37700-MCS-003 - same
So, besides the Speedometer, the ECM is different, which could cause that 2MPH difference I see above 50mph, that AV8R doesn't see.
There you are...please, be my guest, to verify the results, using a Cop ECM with a Cop Speedometer on a non Cop bike!