Article [13] ST1300 - Maintenance - Fairing Installation

dduelin said:
I'm not sure why Honda chose to use a longer push rivet for the maintenance panel on bike equipped with the optional wind deflectors. The standard push pin rivet 90116-MCS-G00 is an exact fit even with the deflectors installed.
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Apropos of ST 1300s with wind deflectors on the sides (including the little part over the maintenance panel), @970mike wrote a really good article about how to avoid losing both the maintenance cover and the wind deflector that fits over it - here is the link: ST1300 - Fairing Deflector Inspection Cover fix

I am sufficiently concerned about the rather tenuous attachment of the maintenance cover and associated small wind deflector over top of it that I use a large pan-head screw driven into a rawl plug (plastic expansion plug) on the underside, rather than the Honda fastener. I never bother taking the maintenance covers off - if I have to do work in there, I take the whole side fairing off.

Michael
 
jfheath said:
Do you mean the two that I have circled ?
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Yep that's them - same as the two on the top of the dash. According to ronayers.com the part for the Lid R Middle Cowl GR64323-MCS-G00ZH uses a screw clip 90683-MBW-003 which looks like the Honda part you posted. And it appears to be the same length as the wobble bit. So it looks like rubber well nuts are Plan B.
 
CYYJ said:
Apropos of ST 1300s with wind deflectors on the sides (including the little part over the maintenance panel), @970mike wrote a really good article about how to avoid losing both the maintenance cover and the wind deflector that fits over it - here is the link: ST1300 - Fairing Deflector Inspection Cover fix

I am sufficiently concerned about the rather tenuous attachment of the maintenance cover and associated small wind deflector over top of it that I use a large pan-head screw driven into a rawl plug (plastic expansion plug) on the underside, rather than the Honda fastener. I never bother taking the maintenance covers off - if I have to do work in there, I take the whole side fairing off.

Michael
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The standard rivet in good condition installed properly is sufficient to retain the maintenance covers.
 
jfheath said:
I agree, but less so if you have the deflector fitted. The grey cover is prone to springing from under the lip of the main deflector simply due to the fact that it is easy to catch with legs when feet are on the ground and inching forward in slow moving traffic.

The clip keeps things together, and i never bothered about doing snything until I saw a couple of ST1300s with the cover missing and I realised that the replacements were no longer available. I use those nice bolts that. are fitted to the removable side vent of the ST1100. They have a nice chromed dome head with a hex socket.
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I had deflectors fitted and it doesn’t change my thoughts.
 
I've just been looking at alternative supplies for the fairing bolts. I came across one source - mentioned a few months ago by a member - for stainless steel components, which he said were good, but some parts didn't fit. The company's website does give the sizes, but I had nothing to compare them to. That site is here in the UK, so not much use to most people on the forum.

But for anyone else doing the same thing, I've just been through the bolts and measured the diameter and length of the shoulder on the main bolts, and the diameter of the head. I've added the info to the pdf in post #1 and uploaded the new version.

Most dimensions will have a little leeway, but I think that the key one is the depth of the shoulder. Too much and the fairing may rattle around. Too little, there is no point in having it as the bolt will tighten onto the fairing rather than onto the shoulder - which could result in the fairing cracking around the hole. Anyway - here is a summary of the measurements that I took. Again - these are for a UK ST1300 A9. Mostly they are common to all models - I checked some, but there will doubtless be variations that I haven't spotted.

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If using this as a buying list note that other models may have slight variations. It is always handy to have spares - the JIS shoulder screw.is one that I always keep plenty of. Its always worthwhile checking for your model.
 
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Following John Heath's comments, here's a link to the kit I bought on Ebay (UK):-

www.ebay.co.uk

Fit For Honda ST1300 2002-2013 Stainless Complete Fairing Bolts Kit Body Screws | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Fit For Honda ST1300 2002-2013 Stainless Complete Fairing Bolts Kit Body Screws at the best online prices at eBay! Free delivery for many products.
www.ebay.co.uk

Very pleased with the quality. Only point to note is that the shoulders come separate to the screws, but work well.
All came in a useful box with dividers and diagram of where they fit.

Paul
 
St1300biker said:
Very pleased with the quality. Only point to note is that the shoulders come separate to the screws, but work well.
All came in a useful box with dividers and diagram of where they fit.
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Many thanks for that link Paul. I did spot that set, and they look good, so it is nice to have your recommendation. One thing that concerns me in the picture is that it seems to show the shoulder/washer combination to be made from a black plastic ? I looked at another kit with metal shoulders and the depths that they provided either slightly thinner than the OEM shoulders - so wouldn't prevent the fairing from being pinched by the bolt. Or the next size up would be much too deep.

Note that they are posted from China - so there may be import handling charges levied by the Post Office. It doesn't always happen, but the last time I had something like this, it was a minimum flat fee of £25. The 'from UK only' option on ebay doesn't seem to filter anything out these days. It's very difficult not to buy stuff from China, but I try hard !
 
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jfheath said:
Many thanks for that link Paul. I did spot that set, and they look good, so it is nice to have your recommendation. One thing that concerns me in the picture is that it seems to show the shoulder/washer combination to be made from a black plastic ? I looked at another kit with metal shoulders and the depths that they provided either slightly thinner than the OEM shoulders - so wouldn't prevent the fairing from being piched by the bolt. Or the next size up would be much too deep.

Note that they are posted from China - so there may be import handling charges levied by the Post Office. It doesn't always happen, but the last time I had something like this, it was a minimum flat fee of £25. The 'from UK only' option on ebay doesn't seem to filter anything out these days. It's very difficult not to buy stuff from China, but I try hard !
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John, I've re-checked the shoulders and, unless I'm mistaken, the shoulders are indeed metal! I spent a lot of time researching at the time and concluded these would be the most suitable for my needs.
Yes they come from China. I ordered mine just before China went into lockdown - still got them in a timely manner without any import duty. Mind you, I disinfected everything well - you will recall everyone was far more diligent then!Parts List.jpg

Two other bits of interest:-

1. Note the heads of the screws differ from the OEM ones, but are fine.
2. I attach the parts list and diagram

Paul
 
Here's one example on ebay.com

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Complete Fairing Bolt Kit Bodywork Screws Fit For HONDA ST1300 2002-2013 | eBay

The Kit includes Bolts, Screws, Washers,Grommets, Well Nuts, Push Retainers which are required by bike. Made from high qualty stainless steel (ISO9001), in a smiliar size with OEM Bolts. The package includes 1 set complete fairing bolts kits+1 parts list+1 drawings. Quality guarantee in 2 years...
www.ebay.com
 
jfheath said:
1586437533979.pngA set of notes about putting the fairing back onto the ST1300. It covers most of the fitting gotchas, which might otherwise catch you out and/or result in broken tags. Also lists all of the fasteners - photos, description,, part numbers, where they fit and why it matters.

Very useful for learning what goes where and why.

Link related to Fairing Removal

The attached pdf was updated 20 Nov 2020
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Thanks buddy. This will save a lot of people a lot of frustration!
 
I also bought these trim clips on Ebay (UK) which again are good quality:-

www.ebay.co.uk

10x Honda Bike Cowling, Fairing, Shield & Panel Cover Clips 90657-SB0-003 | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for 10x Honda Bike Cowling, Fairing, Shield & Panel Cover Clips 90657-SB0-003 at the best online prices at eBay! Free delivery for many products.
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Genuine Honda Panel Fixing Clip NH1 CBR600 GL1800 & More 91549-MW0-790ZA | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Genuine Honda Panel Fixing Clip NH1 CBR600 GL1800 & More 91549-MW0-790ZA at the best online prices at eBay! Free delivery for many products.
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UK supplier. I haven't tried ebay.com

Paul
 
St1300biker said:
Following John Heath's comments, here's a link to the kit I bought on Ebay (UK):-

www.ebay.co.uk

Fit For Honda ST1300 2002-2013 Stainless Complete Fairing Bolts Kit Body Screws | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Fit For Honda ST1300 2002-2013 Stainless Complete Fairing Bolts Kit Body Screws at the best online prices at eBay! Free delivery for many products.
www.ebay.co.uk

Very pleased with the quality. Only point to note is that the shoulders come separate to the screws, but work well.
All came in a useful box with dividers and diagram of where they fit.

Paul
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I was just looking at the kits. I did not see the shoulder on any of them. Does that matter?
 
STmark1300 said:
I did not see the shoulder on any of them. Does that matter?
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The shoulders protect the fairing so that when you tighten the bolt, the head tightens onto the shoulder and not on the plastic. Without the shoulder, the fairing would probably crack at some point.

However, the kits seems to be provided with separate shoulders combined with a washer. Aparently the black shoulder/washer pieces are made of metal. These pieces taken from the website picture posted above. The diagram is a generic selection - the quantities and sixe of bolts for the ST1300 will differ from that photo.

I've not used such a kit yet. Others have.

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Kevcules said:
Can we buy a plastic pin kit? Or do we need to buy the individual pins every time?
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I bought the plastic pin and replacement fastener kit off EBay for cheap (~$20). The plastic fasteners come in various configurations and seem to work fine. The plastic fasteners, especially the ones down on the bottom which get beat up by the road are essentially consumable parts so its good to have spares. My local auto parts store sells them for about $4 each, so a better deal to be sure.

The Chinese replacement aluminum screw fasteners are not good quality (mine mysteriously came in blue), but if you have lost one they work ok for holding plastic panels on.
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Great, Was just about to think about diving into the manual for the pins P/Ns and QTY (<<---- lots of help). Much easier with your write up. Thanks for saving of the headache!


jfheath said:
1586437533979.pngA set of notes about putting the fairing back onto the ST1300. It covers most of the fitting gotchas, which might otherwise catch you out and/or result in broken tags. Also lists all of the fasteners - photos, description,, part numbers, where they fit and why it matters.

Very useful for learning what goes where and why.

Link related to Fairing Removal

The attached pdf was updated 20 Nov 2020
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jfheath said:
1586437533979.pngA set of notes about putting the fairing back onto the ST1300. It covers most of the fitting gotchas, which might otherwise catch you out and/or result in broken tags. Also lists all of the fasteners - photos, description,, part numbers, where they fit and why it matters.

Very useful for learning what goes where and why.

Link related to Fairing Removal

The attached pdf was updated 20 Nov 2020
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I used to put them in a plastic divided box, now I put them in one big pile.
 
MerlF said:
I used to put them in a plastic divided box, now I put them in one big pile.
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Once you know why the screws are what they are - it's easy to pick up the corrcect screw - even on a bike that you are not familiar with.

I break this rule twice. The lower grey panel below the radiator - is supposed to have two JIS cross head shoulder screws. Mine has 5mm hex head bolts without a shoulder.
I just cannot get my hand and a JIS driver into the space behind the front wheel with enough force to break the rust.
 
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