Article [13] ST1300 - Key Knob Farkle with pics

Re: ST 1300 Key Knob Farkle with pics

jcc said:
and $9 for oil for the caps
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Another option.. I spent $4 for a couple liters of a tasty beverage.

One thing I did do was use both the hot glue and the epoxy. A drop or two of hot glue to hold the key, then half filled the caps with the slower setting epoxy.

Also, I cut a few slots in the cut-off end of the key to give the epoxy a little more bite. Not that I ever heard of anyone losing a key... but just to be safe...

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Re: ST 1300 Key Knob Farkle with pics

Hello Ferret,

I've seen this Farkle before on another American site.. It's a very nice thing and also easy to make.
Do you mind if i use these pictures an text to make an how to for our dutch forum http://www.st1100-1300.nl
I'm sure this will make a lot of dutch Pan riders verry happy.
Finaly they can open there sadllebags without shutting down the engine.

Thanks in advance
 
dduelin said:
2.) If I ever need to jump start my bike I'll have to ride away without my right saddlebag as you need a key to replace it.
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I also don't see the need for this farkle, more of a security risk. I always carry two sets of keys, the house keys which have an extra bike key stowed in the trunk. Could stow in the saddlebag if I didn't have a trunk. If I needed to jump the bike, I could lock the right bag with the extra key.
But like with all farkles....different strokes for....
 
I did this a few year ago, a turned out great. There an old radio, TV repair shop in town and he had a drawer full of old knobs and let me pick what I wanted for nothing. I gave him a few dollars and we where both happy.
 
bjalphasud said:
I also don't see the need for this farkle, more of a security risk.
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As with most farkles, there is seldom an absolute need. But often they can offer convenience and prove very useful. Convenience, usefulness, and risk are relative. If I was a forgetful person and had little to no situational awareness, I'd have to avoid this like the plague. Since that's the case I'm more than comfortable weighing convenience against security and know when to compromise and when not to. Just getting on a bike could be a greater risk for the majority of riders.

If I'm going to be away from and/or out of sight from my bike for any length of time, the baggage keys would come out. Or maybe I hadn't bother to put them in, in the first place. Again, it's about balancing convenience against security. For example layering or de-layering clothing at a gas stop or roadside is generally not a risk and and these extra keys are handy. Handy is good in its time and place, and we can make that decision.


bjalphasud said:
. I always carry two sets of keys, the house keys which have an extra bike key stowed in the trunk. Could stow in the saddlebag if I didn't have a trunk.
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I'm a little confused. Should something happen to your first/primary key(s), how to you get the the extras stowed in a trunk or saddlebag? An extra bike key is always on my person, should something happen to the primary key.
 
I also did this farkle several years ago. I commute on my bike and being able to easily get in and out of the saddle bags is a huge bonus. When I travel the knobs come out and go into the locked fairing pocket. It is nice to have them when I am letting the bike warm up on those chilly fall mornings and still packing the saddle bags.



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ST Gui said:
I'm a little confused. Should something happen to your first/primary key(s), how to you get the the extras stowed in a trunk or saddlebag? An extra bike key is always on my person, should something happen to the primary key.
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GUI- The key that opens the trunk is not the same as the motor key. So if I were to say break the primary key I would still have access to the trunk. To your point, if I lost the entire set then I would be in a pickle, but I'm sure for all the years you have been riding, you can count on two fingers or less the number of times you lost your entire key set when on a ride.
 
Having bar risers makes it a bit more difficult getting the ignition key in. The key in the locking pocket works perfectly in the tank lock. If I'm ever in a dicey location, I remove all of these keys and lock them in the fairing pocket. Generally there is nothing extremely valuable in my bags. (6) years of convenience more than offsets the possibility of theft. By the way, I have never had a helmet stolen and never lock it to the bike.
 
I made one of these about a week ago (and leave it in the left box), but I could not find a very short blank anywhere like the ones in the pictures. All the DA23 keys available here were almost as long as the primary key, both at ACE and at the local go-to locksmith. The locksmith told me the blanks were for a Nissan. As a result, I had to cut off the entire head to get it short enough. Then I drilled a hole in the shank and put a bolt through it with a nut on each side of the shank, and filled everything up with my wife's hot glue gun. Would have been a lot simpler if I could have found shorter blanks.
 
BradnChristine said:
could have found shorter blanks
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Nope.. they don't exist. You did the right thing. Cut off the head, measure how much you need sticking up and cut off the remainder. A cut-off wheel in a dremel works good too. I stick the key in the lock and set the knob alongside and then mark the height needed with a sharpie.

But each has their own style, as long as we ride, it's good.
 
I was wondering if it is possible to renew the pictures of this tutorial. I recently sold my ST1100 and bought a ST1300 and would really like be able to make my own keys.
 
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