Article [13] ST1300 - Clutch Slave Cylinder Replacement

2xthefun said:
First of all, a HUGE thanx to Pete for a great write up on the changing of the CSC. Very much appreciated! Sir, YOU ROCK!!!
Called my dealership (he is very fair) and asked him about it. He did not have to replace one yet, so of course he says no problem. Should be easy. After looking at his computer (14 hours of labor) he started laughing. Pretty much calling Honda every name in the book for designing the bike this way. It was pretty funny. He told me to bring it in and he can look at it. I told him i can not move the bike and that i will try to do it.
Following Pete's write up, it was a breeze. A little more difficult than that, but it's done! 3 hours of work. Tools, parts, bleeder-total cost $160. Probably saved me a good $1500.
THANK YOU !!!
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Thanks very much 2x - kind words indeed. Glad it worked out for you and yes, theee hours is about what I found as well as the other folks who did it before me. As you said, not quite a breeze - but entirely doable by an average shade tree mechanic especially if you have the right tools.

You know, it's funny. Before I did mine, I was not able to find very much at all on what seemed like quite a rare problem - but since then, all sorts of folks from all over the world seem to have issues with the CSC.

Cheers,

Pete
 
Thanks for the write up Pete! Mine started leaking last summer. I've topped the master cylinder off twice now. I was paranoid about this job, but your write up gives me the confidence to DIY it. I have all the parts (except the crush washers), and I already had the tools. I will be doing this job in the next few days.

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carldavis65 said:
Thanks for the write up Pete! Mine started leaking last summer. I've topped the master cylinder off twice now. I was paranoid about this job, but your write up gives me the confidence to DIY it. I have all the parts (except the crush washers), and I already had the tools. I will be doing this job in the next few days.

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Excellent Carl - good for you! Don't forget to grab those crush washers and the vaseline (extremely handy) - and then have at it.

Are you going to be at the Der Dutchman RTE this weekend?

Pete
 
MaxPete said:
Excellent Carl - good for you! Don't forget to grab those crush washers and the vaseline (extremely handy) - and then have at it.

Are you going to be at the Der Dutchman RTE this weekend?

Pete
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I'm planning on it! I've been trying to make it to an event for a while! Looking forward to meeting some people.

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carldavis65 said:
Ha. Not yet. It might be a few weeks before I get to it.

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OK - well, I'm sure that you will find it quite manageable but not a great deal of fun. Fortunately, there is not much disassembly of the bike required, not many special tools and nothing too heavy to lift/align or wrestle with.

Cheers,

Pete
 
Hi Pete,
THANK YOU for your article. I just finished doing this to my 2006 and with the help of your wisdom it went very well. I have 2 things that I'll add here...(both for what they're worth of course.)
First, by far the hardest part of this is getting the old gasket off. Definitely took me the most time. If I had it to do again I'd leave the old one in place as it doesn't seal anything anyway. Second, I agree with the person who said to remove the speed sensor (I think)...having it out of the way made the job easier for me.

Thanks again Pete! I owe you one!

Mark
 
Great points Mark - I'll edit the article.

The only wrinkle about leaving gasket on would be if it was "lumpy" and would not allow the CSC to sit nice and flat on the engine case.

As long it comes off fairly even and smooth I agree that it would be OK to leave the gasket on because as you say, it really does not actually "seal" anything.

Anyhow glad it worked out for you. It is certainly better than the $1300+ Honda factory method.

Pete
 
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Great write up Pete ! Question is what took more time the write up or the actual job !!! Usually let dealer tackle my issues but the amount of description in your write up makes me think I could actually do this with Ray supervising of course. :bow1:
 
Well, spent about 2.5 hours today stretched out beside the 2005 doing this job. Overall it went well. I agree, one of the worse parts was scraping off the old gasket!
 
There ya go sah48 - glad it worked out.

FWIW - we used a brass brush to get the gasket off and that seemed effective and didn't damage the engine cases.
 
I followed post and everything worked out great!!
Only thing I did different was a full oil change and replaced
the dot4 in the brake system while I was at it.
 
Excellent Ph8 - glad it worked out.

I think about 8-12 people have now done this job which is a collective saving of around $15-20,000 in labour over the Honda method.

Of course, that estimate is in Canadian dollars - but $20K CDN is still more than $39.40 US at the current rate of exchange....:D;)
 
Thank you Max Pete for collaborating with each of the other ST-Owners members and detailing this whole process. The whole problem still breaks my heart though. I am now know this is my problem on my 2003 ST 1300. But I am no longer physically able to do this work, and don't have the money, nor even a Honda dealer capable of this within 150 miles of me. I love my ST, I only get to ride a few days a year because of my health, but my ST is my motivation to keep fighting. I am so thankful to Mellow and all of the members of ST-Owners for the many years of fellowship and knowledge sharing and good eats I have been blessed with.

Thank you so much, as a true patriot and disabled vet, it really warms my heart to see so many great people from all walks of life, generously helping each other. Just Awesome.
 
OK gang, who do we have in Arizona that can go over and help Mr. Beedlebugs with his service needs?
Anyone?
 
You are awesome Igofar, but I live in the remote white mountains, near Show Low in the Eastern side of Arizona, I have only ever seen one ST here, but lots of twins. Your heart is exactly what I always knew I was really fighting for. I do have a bedroom, good food, and much cooler temperatures than the Phoenix valley as a fringe benefit to anyone considering helping.

Thank you again, God bless you.
 
Geeeeezzz - I would LOVE to come out and give you a hand with this but my #2 daughter is getting married this summer and my list of to-do's in prep for that is simply too long.

If anyone does live nearby in AZ - I would be happy to do a live iPad FaceTime chat session to help talk you through the process.

As I said in the article - this job is a bit awkward - but nothing is heavy, hot, or fastened very tightly. It basically involves lying on your back for an hour or so and working over your head.

I sure hope that a Forum member nearby can pitch-in and help.

Please let me know if you do get a helper - and we can arrange a chat session.

Pete
 
As soon as my hands heal enough after my surgery, I may be able to do a road trip in the car and bring enough tools to try and assist you.
I can also help any other members in Arizona, via the white courtesy phone, if you could assist our friend. I know that I will be a few months out from doing that kind of work.
Anyone else up to paying it forward and helping a Vet out?
 
You guys are ST Patriots down to the bone. I treasure making new friends, especially those that walk the walk of being good and true friends that I can easily see that you guys are. Even if it doesn't work out getting together and meeting you, I still consider you guys great friends. Perhaps if we are able to do this together we can take lots of pictures and help others undertake this project and save them a headache or two or just save some time. I am a total believer in mentoring and continue knowledge sharing with peers, and our younger generation as well. God bless you and have a Super 4th of July weekend!
 
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