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Yup, in a humble 421C and an incredible 441.
Nice. My dad had one of the T-hangers there, at first where the new terminal is, then over across the crick behind the Barn hanger. Started with a 172, then a Mooney Mk 21 and finally a Cherokee Arrow. I remember he used to bribe me to go with him by promising an Orange Fanta in the Club house after the flight.
 
Nice. My dad had one of the T-hangers there, at first where the new terminal is, then over across the crick behind the Barn hanger. Started with a 172, then a Mooney Mk 21 and finally a Cherokee Arrow. I remember he used to bribe me to go with him by promising an Orange Fanta in the Club house after the flight.
I've probably met your dad. I learned to fly fixed wing at the WW Flying club when it truly was a club on a rickety C150 owned by the UW Flying club. I also spent some time flying charters for Skyways & ATS until they bought their jet.
Was the abandoned Bonanza parked on the grass when you were there? Which high school did you go to?
 
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Brave pillion. I wouldn't ride pillion behind Marc Marquez even if he promised to take it easy

Years ago, there was a couple that would terrorize the Dragon in NC. They would pull in to the Dragon Store with an enclosed trailer and unload a black R-1 Yamaha. They both dressed in matching black head to toe leathers & helmets. They were very fast and you could hear them coming from a long way off giving you time to get out of their way, but every time I saw them, I just thought ..someday.....

Wonder if they are still riding...heck truthfully, I wonder if they are still alive.
I've done some absurdly stupid things with my then gf on the back in my young, stupid days. Bragging rights then... apologetic embarrassment now.

The brave pillion in the photo was actually more scared than he will admit in front of his friends, lol. Adrenaline and trust kept me from falling off the 2-seater 2016 MotoGP Desmosedici (250hp, 346 lbs). A friend and I were included in the 2-up experience as a bonus for taking part in the MotoGP experience (where we rode the 2022 factory bike of Michele Pirro). The 2022 bike is one of the only bikes I've ever been scared of (300hp, 346 lbs. and 4 million Euros :redface:). The 2-up bike was just as scary...not being in control and having a crazy pilot... actually, he is fun crazy -- Franco "ironfrank" Battaini, 52, ex-world class racer, with mega skills. Let's just say it's a good thing I was wearing black leathers... :roflmao:

I wouldn't get on the back of Marc either... he crashes too much, lol. But Valentino? Game on!!
 
LOL! :biggrin:
May we criticize the head position/eye-line/view-field of both you you there? ;)
I always trained my pillion GFs hard on that; lean on my back, do not lounge on the darn top-case, view into the corner over my inside shoulder, eyes parallel with horizon... MSL instructors agreed and enforced this... the unity between rider and passenger rewards with precise and smooth cornering...

OTOH had I GFs falling asleep while doing between 70 and 100pmh on flat winding roads, smooth style, long days and high ambient temps... and you've the "knock-knock" of her helmet on yours... ;)

Of course I also back off when I sense that the fella in front is in over his head there... safety first, fun second... always...

But the encounters with weekend-warriors while coming home from a 2~3 week tour, bike fully packed and dirtied up, are always amusing... :cool:
I just spent 5,500miles on my motorcycle... he barely 55 minutes... :unsure:
 
My wife and I were rolling past Brussels one early morning doing about 80 on the Autobahn when I noticed she had stopped humming. Felt her rolling off the back of our BMW and was able to grab her legs to keep her from falling off. Just went to sleep and attempted a high-speed dismount....
Ouch... :oops:

EX of a friend of mine fell asleep on his ST and dreamed she has to get up and make coffee now... quite similar pucker factor...
 
My wife and I were rolling past Brussels one early morning doing about 80 on the Autobahn when I noticed she had stopped humming. Felt her rolling off the back of our BMW and was able to grab her legs to keep her from falling off. Just went to sleep and attempted a high-speed dismount....
Similar with my wife. She will doze off on trips. When I feel her leaning on my back, she is dozing. No close calls after all these years.
 
I've probably met your dad. I learns to fly fixed wing at the WW Flying club when it truly was a club on a rickety C150 owned by the UW Flying club. I also spent some time flying charters for Skyways & ATS until they bought their jet.
Was the abandoned Bonanza parked on the grass when you were there? Which high school did you go to?
I have vague memories of a Bonanza. I recall when they got the simulator in the clubhouse for training.

I went to WCI for most of high school and then did a tune up year at KCI when I realized my marks were more of a comedy routine than an entree to university. I miss KW, probably nostalgia but it was a great place to grow up.
 
I have vague memories of a Bonanza. I recall when they got the simulator in the clubhouse for training.

I went to WCI for most of high school and then did a tune up year at KCI when I realized my marks were more of a comedy routine than an entree to university. I miss KW, probably nostalgia but it was a great place to grow up.
I think they got the simulator from the Air Cadets... an old Link. The Bonanza sat behind the first row of T- hangars for over 20 years... sad. Its paint was bleached, the windows yellowed and it was pitted with hail damage. A few people tried to buy it from the owner to save it but he refused so it sat and rotted away.
I knew an older chap who had a Mooney & hung out at Skyways, he was in sales... your dad perhaps?
I went to Cameron & graduated in '76, when did you graduate?
 
No, my dad was a GP. He learned to fly at Island Airport in Toronto and then did a stint in the air force.

The Mooney (RNU) my dad had was yellow/gold and white, while the Cherokee (ZZT) was Red and white with some blue trim. He was part of an ownership group that eventually dwindled down to he and another guy. They sold the Cherokee when the other guy realized he hadn't been flying in about 5 years and it wasn't worth the cost.

I graduated...the first time in '82 and then again in '84.
 
LOL! :biggrin:
May we criticize the head position/eye-line/view-field of both you you there? ;)
I always trained my pillion GFs hard on that; lean on my back, do not lounge on the darn top-case, view into the corner over my inside shoulder, eyes parallel with horizon... MSL instructors agreed and enforced this... the unity between rider and passenger rewards with precise and smooth cornering...

OTOH had I GFs falling asleep while doing between 70 and 100pmh on flat winding roads, smooth style, long days and high ambient temps... and you've the "knock-knock" of her helmet on yours... ;)

Of course I also back off when I sense that the fella in front is in over his head there... safety first, fun second... always...

But the encounters with weekend-warriors while coming home from a 2~3 week tour, bike fully packed and dirtied up, are always amusing... :cool:
I just spent 5,500miles on my motorcycle... he barely 55 minutes... :unsure:
Please feel free to criticize :roflmao: The Moto X2 bikes have carbon pillion handles on the tank, without which a lot of passengers will fall off the back as Franco carries a wheelie down the straight. I have a couple of 230+ hp bikes and also rode the 250hp V4R World Superbike there, but they do not deliver that power in the way a MotoGP bike does... it really is other worldly... I feel more than privileged to be able to experience that at that level. I'm a pretty short guy (170cm) with short limbs, more muscular (and a bit chubby) than most, and I had to work to not affect his input. (Notice how he is sitting up against the tank to allow my arms to not be locked out.) Without doubt, I restricted his movement and cornering body position. The reach to the grab rails is so far (for me), that my chest was often against his back limiting his movement somewhat. That was the first picture turn at Misano and he generally takes it easy and has a body position to catch the bike if his pillion is not steady, as a just in case. He has crashed because of passengers. Once he realized that I (and my elbow dragging buddy Chris) could handle it (and we were the only two apparently), he started braking deeper (my ass was coming off the seat) and increasing lean angle. I could have dragged my knee by simply extending it. No disrespect intended, but your pillion GF's would have quite likely fallen off at that pace. ;) The brakes were also carbon on carbon MotoGP brakes... I'm a late braker and am used to phenomenal brake components, but these too were other worldly.

Here is my head position/eye-line/view-field on my own from the shitty line pic a few pages back... it still sucks, and my short arms/big girth still cause interference issues, but is it better? ;) BTW, the field of view for FIM-homologated helmets is wider than normal, and my eyes were pointed beyond the apex I just blew #smh :roflmao:
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No, my dad was a GP. He learned to fly at Island Airport in Toronto and then did a stint in the air force.

The Mooney (RNU) my dad had was yellow/gold and white, while the Cherokee (ZZT) was Red and white with some blue trim. He was part of an ownership group that eventually dwindled down to he and another guy. They sold the Cherokee when the other guy realized he hadn't been flying in about 5 years and it wasn't worth the cost.

I graduated...the first time in '82 and then again in '84.
We probably killed many a brain cell at the same watering holes. ;)
Did your dad practice in KW? I'm also an RN so I may have run into him at St Marys or KWH.
If you had any friends who worked at McDonald's on Victoria, I probably knew them.
 
Monty Python and the Holy Grail

I think I technically got it wrong. I believe it should be:

What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?
 
No disrespect intended, but your pillion GF's would have quite likely fallen off at that pace. ;)
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Reminds me of the scream on the intercom when she scraped her boot on the handling parkour during named safety training (they split that into several sections, the final stage is like "free riding"); well, that's what their getting for sitting like a frog... tuck those toes in ;)
Despite the firmer Wilbers suspension you start scraping parts rather quick on the racetrack-tarmac they have there, OK in that controlled environment, I won't do such on purpose on normal roads...
Before the Wilbers (and the actual reason I welled the $$ out for that upgrade) I had a nasty incident while riding 2 up by hitting a some hump in a RH corner, undercarriage (mainstand & pegs) hitting the deck, forcing the ST vertical and running wide... :oops:
I did not cross the line (barely), but imagine someone coming the other direction would have cut that corner... :(
By the numbers given in the title the payload of an ST1100 are only 200kg/440lbs... 2 up with luggage you're well beyond that...
Had the stuff designed for more realistic 250kg/550lbs max and found it the best investment ever...
(and whenever I switch to my '94 with its OEM suspension it feels like riding a sofa... :biggrin:)
 
Taking air resistance into consideration the terminal velocity of the average human is about 120 mph, I would imagine a tumbling motorcycle not to be more aerodynamic.
Motorcycle is much more dense. Will have much higher terminal velocity.
Well, I guess I should say motorcycles are much more dense than most humans. Always have to account for mongo.
 
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Reminds me of the scream on the intercom when she scraped her boot on the handling parkour during named safety training (they split that into several sections, the final stage is like "free riding"); well, that's what their getting for sitting like a frog... tuck those toes in ;)
Despite the firmer Wilbers suspension you start scraping parts rather quick on the racetrack-tarmac they have there, OK in that controlled environment, I won't do such on purpose on normal roads...
Before the Wilbers (and the actual reason I welled the $$ out for that upgrade) I had a nasty incident while riding 2 up by hitting a some hump in a RH corner, undercarriage (mainstand & pegs) hitting the deck, forcing the ST vertical and running wide... :oops:
I did not cross the line (barely), but imagine someone coming the other direction would have cut that corner... :(
By the numbers given in the title the payload of an ST1100 are only 200kg/440lbs... 2 up with luggage you're well beyond that...
Had the stuff designed for more realistic 250kg/550lbs max and found it the best investment ever...
(and whenever I switch to my '94 with its OEM suspension it feels like riding a sofa... :biggrin:)
Admittedly (idiotically and embarrassingly now), I used to drag my then-gf's boot on the mountain roads back in the day on a 1990 VFR750F with great tires, but stock suspension. It was met with a deserved hard smack in the back of the helmet. Franco gave me a taste of my own medicine x1000.

I have no experience with Wilbers... I almost exclusively run very adjustable Ohlins front and rear. Since I don't think Ohlins makes an application for the ST, I'll likely run a Hyperpro with remote reservoir (?) or perhaps a custom Penske shock. I don't think I'll spend the big money on cartridges up front... I'm hoping Racetech springs with their gold valves will be enough. I don't really run that hard on the street anymore, so I think it's more of a "it'l be there if I need/want it" or if I'm feeling suicidal that day ;) I'm pretty smooth, but I find I can upset the bike pretty easily over bumps mid-corner, so I suspect the suspension could use a major service or upgrade for my riding style. Fortunately (?), my comfort bar is not very high. I've run long hard days on former and current VFR's which are extremely comfortable for me, but the ST is indeed a sofa by comparison. Need to be careful lest I fall asleep and fall off. :roflmao:
 
Admittedly (idiotically and embarrassingly now), I used to drag my then-gf's boot on the mountain roads back in the day on a 1990 VFR750F with great tires, but stock suspension. It was met with a deserved hard smack in the back of the helmet. Franco gave me a taste of my own medicine x1000.
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I almost exclusively run very adjustable Ohlins front and rear.
Ohlins are notorious for a harsh (racetrack) characteristics, whilst Wilbers are rated a bit tamer (but their fork springs were way to firm for road use, at the end I took Hyperpro springs which are a better fit for the frost bitten alpine roads...)
Methinks Traxxion might suit your needs (and US based, hence no customs), I reckon they have upgrades for the ST1100 in their portfolio, but their forks are "in house" hence you'll have to send yours in...
 
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Ohlins are notorious for a harsh (racetrack) characteristics, whilst Wilbers are rated a bit tamer (but their fork springs were way to firm for road use, at the end I took Hyperpro springs which are a better fit for the frost bitten alpine roads...)
Methinks Traxxion might suit your needs (and US based, hence no customs), I reckon they have upgrades for the ST1100 in their portfolio, but their forks are "in house" hence you'll have to send yours in...
I've run most of the major suspension brands and a few of the specialty boutique ones mostly in a performance environment, both street and track. I don't consider Ohlins any harsher than any of the other brands when setup similarly. IMO, suspension is only as good as the service and support you get when required. Though I can do most of my own servicing, I generally rely on the expertise of the gurus who have forgotten more than I will ever know, lol. Mind you, handling is more important to me than comfort, so if I can't have both, I'll take stiff over plush anyday. (That's what she said??) lol

I have some experience with Traxxion Dynamics... I don't think a $1500+ set of cartridges will provide me with a good enough ROI. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE performance cartridges, but I feel it may be a little overkill for the ST, especially if I can't work on them myself. It's moot because Ohlins doesn't offer them, but I can at least install and maintain Ohlins cartridges myself should I so desire. Linear springs (?), improved valving, and perhaps a heavier fork oils should be enough for now. Heck, I may not even need the upgraded valves... sometimes simple is best. ;)
 
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