New to me ST1100! I find another community to belong to!

I'm convinced this is why all the screws on our early Hondas got screwed up. We all used phillips
Does anyone remember upgrading side cover screws to Allen bolt to remedy the problem.
Yes I did that and changed the bottom bolts on the gas tank shelter to allens (Thanks @kiltman).
Now I can strip my ST1100s down with just a 5mm T-Handle! ;)
**EDIT** - BTW, the Honda PN for the smooth side cowl bolts with the 5mm head is 90112-MT4-000.
Same size as the originals (including head) just a 5 mm socket instead of a JIS.
 
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Just so you know, before going to the DMV the engine serial number is on the bottom of the engine just behind the oil pan.
They will want that number. Chances are it will be covered by road grime. Clean it up and take a picture with your phone, you can't see it easily by just looking.
Here?
 

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Also without pulling fairing, I’m wondering: does this look stock to you?
 

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Also without pulling fairing, I’m wondering: does this look stock to you?
That does not look stock.
Usually the stock one is a Showa with a blue spring.

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"Pulling" the side fairing is easy -
Remove the saddlebag.
Remove the big screw.
Carefully work the back end of the cover (there's a little tab on it) out of the rubber grommets the two pegs are stuck in.
Carefully work the front end of the cover out of the rubber grommet on the base of gas tank cover.
"Carefully" because you don't know the condition of the pegs and 'hamfisting' can break them off. ;)
I highly recommend lubing those grommets with silicone grease if you have it.
Vaseline will work in a pinch.
 
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Wow @VidGameKing you sure riled up the natives.

Excellent advice coming from all corners of the globe here.

First, let me dissuade of the notion that we salt in Oregon. We do not. Here in the Willamette Valley south of Portland (Beaverton is a Portland suburb) we barely have snowplows! Same in Washington state. Having moved here from Vermont where they salt the roads like the rim of a margarita glass, it's refreshing to see so many pristine vintage daily drivers on the roads. So if you have corrosion, it's not from the road maintenance up here.

Sadly, my 90k mi 1100 hasn't seen many miles since I got my 1300 in 2020. I have the bookends of the ST line. A first year, one owner (me!) black 1991 ST1100 and a pristine, 3rd owner 2012 ST1300 I shipped to Oregon from North Carolina with 3,600 (yes, 3,600, not 36,000!) miles on it. I suspect the first owner stuffed something, or things, into the tail section under the seat and abraded some wires causing an intermittent stalling problem which his mechanic failed to diagnose. Traded it to a different dealer in Greensboro where the second owner had a similar experience - their mechanics missed it. I found the bike on Craiglist and had a couple friends in Raleigh act as my agents for the purchase. Carl is one of the most persnickety, detail oriented people I know and within five minutes found the worn wires along with a 'blemish' in the tank which I dare anyone on this forum to locate. During the ride home from the freight depot I had it stall at a stop a couple times, chalking it up to my inexperience with the clutch. After arriving home I covered the wires with heat shrink tubing and have racked up about 22k trouble free miles, less a failed speedo sensor while at NEW-STOC 23.

As a first edition of the model I suffered a failure of the 28W alternator. I replaced it with the same, as it occurred before the first refresh that introduced the 40W update and the clever minds here and on earlier STOC forums had come up with a retrofit kit for the earlier models. Should it fail again before it leaves my stable that's an upgrade I'll make. As a 2001, yours won't suffer this same failure for this reason.

I also suffered the main fuse failure but didn't know about the red wire fix so I replaced the whole wiring harness with one from fleabay. I know better now, but that did allow me to be the knight in shining armor for another member here that was in need of a wiring harness for their 1100.

As you've already discovered, you've found the greatest collection of ST enthusiasts on the planet. And if this group can't solve it, they'll certainly have an opinion!!

Good luck. Tom

P.S. - Should you ever find yourself in the Portland area, make a point to visit the likely birthplace of your bike, Bob Lanphere's Beaverton Motorcycles. The dealership is a literal motorcycle museum. Unfortunately all of those bikes are on platforms just below the ceiling! Only the boring new and used ones for sale are at ground level. :(


 
Wow @VidGameKing you sure riled up the natives.

Excellent advice coming from all corners of the globe here.

First, let me dissuade of the notion that we salt in Oregon. We do not. Here in the Willamette Valley south of Portland (Beaverton is a Portland suburb) we barely have snowplows! Same in Washington state. Having moved here from Vermont where they salt the roads like the rim of a margarita glass, it's refreshing to see so many pristine vintage daily drivers on the roads. So if you have corrosion, it's not from the road maintenance up here.

Sadly, my 90k mi 1100 hasn't seen many miles since I got my 1300 in 2020. I have the bookends of the ST line. A first year, one owner (me!) black 1991 ST1100 and a pristine, 3rd owner 2012 ST1300 I shipped to Oregon from North Carolina with 3,600 (yes, 3,600, not 36,000!) miles on it. I suspect the first owner stuffed something, or things, into the tail section under the seat and abraded some wires causing an intermittent stalling problem which his mechanic failed to diagnose. Traded it to a different dealer in Greensboro where the second owner had a similar experience - their mechanics missed it. I found the bike on Craiglist and had a couple friends in Raleigh act as my agents for the purchase. Carl is one of the most persnickety, detail oriented people I know and within five minutes found the worn wires along with a 'blemish' in the tank which I dare anyone on this forum to locate. During the ride home from the freight depot I had it stall at a stop a couple times, chalking it up to my inexperience with the clutch. After arriving home I covered the wires with heat shrink tubing and have racked up about 22k trouble free miles, less a failed speedo sensor while at NEW-STOC 23.

As a first edition of the model I suffered a failure of the 28W alternator. I replaced it with the same, as it occurred before the first refresh that introduced the 40W update and the clever minds here and on earlier STOC forums had come up with a retrofit kit for the earlier models. Should it fail again before it leaves my stable that's an upgrade I'll make. As a 2001, yours won't suffer this same failure for this reason.

I also suffered the main fuse failure but didn't know about the red wire fix so I replaced the whole wiring harness with one from fleabay. I know better now, but that did allow me to be the knight in shining armor for another member here that was in need of a wiring harness for their 1100.

As you've already discovered, you've found the greatest collection of ST enthusiasts on the planet. And if this group can't solve it, they'll certainly have an opinion!!

Good luck. Tom

P.S. - Should you ever find yourself in the Portland area, make a point to visit the likely birthplace of your bike, Bob Lanphere's Beaverton Motorcycles. The dealership is a literal motorcycle museum. Unfortunately all of those bikes are on platforms just below the ceiling! Only the boring new and used ones for sale are at ground level. :(


Stirring things up is actually what I do professionally, so it makes sense that I might have a similar effect in the boards!

What I do at work is ethereal, and I need to be able to point at something and say; “I did that.”.

I’m a nerd, so I’m about an eighth of the way through the common service manual.

One thing that matters to me, is the people who know and love the things they do. When I got this bike I knew nothing about them. Now, mere weeks later I can talk about torque specs, the pain in loosing Honda Moly 60, and what parts I need to be on the lookout for. Sites and folks like st-owners are the reason I’m keeping the bike and making it mine. Sure I could go buy a new bike, I’m not broke. I’m not going to because most new bikes these days are loaded to the gills with electronics the maintenance becomes ethereal. Worse yet I could go for a more popular bike that still has 3rd party parts made, 20-years post production runs. Those bike will likely be track bikes, and folks will be talking about tearing up twisties, and shredding gnar. I’m not a spring chicken anymore, I like a level of refinement in my life, and I like a challenge. You all are the reason this bike is my new obsession, the bike itself is inconsequential.
 
I'm convinced this is why all the screws on our early Hondas got screwed up. We all used phillips
Does anyone remember upgrading side cover screws to Allen bolt to remedy the problem.
also remember having a dull chisel to put a cut into head of screw and then tap counter-clockwise to break loose for removal. :please1:
 
Didn't everyone have one of these?

1/2 Dr. 6 Piece Impact Driver Set | Gray Tools Online Store
 
Didn't everyone have one of these?

1/2 Dr. 6 Piece Impact Driver Set | Gray Tools Online Store
Yup , don't need it as much now that I have JIS head screw drivers. What is scary is ,forty plus years as professional mechanic and nobody ever told me there was such thing as Japanese industrial Standard,till I signed up on a bike forum. Even Snap-On tools guy didn't know and yeah they don't have any.
 
You're referring to neglected ones? :unsure:
Never had an issue since I started applying a whiff of Loctite 8065 on the threads...

shopping.jpg
Speaking of lactate, I just bought a tub (8oz, 226g) of 8012 in preparation for cleaning and lubing splines and replacing o-rings. Dang is that stuff expensive! Did I buy a lifetime supply, or will this be something I invest in every couple of years?

Another fun question, and I have not yet used the site's handy-dandy search button YET, but I was thinking about forming up a list of consumables, tools, recommended parts and what not for getting into a ST1100. I know there are the threads previously mentioned, those are buying guides and target "do this" kind of lists. I was thinking hey, you want this bike, stock up on these things...

Anyways I'm going to use that search button now, and if I don't find anything I'm just gonna start making my own thread on it lol!
 
Whelp! I know it's been a hot second since I last posted... I had to get the bike ready to take to the DMV. I was able to get it registered in CA! so that's one stress down.

Getting the bike ready for inspection I did the following:

Removed:
  • All non-factory wiring
  • HID headlight kit & ballast
  • Handlebar extenders
  • Weird, ugly windshield
  • Non-factory fuse-box
  • Metric-Ton of zip-ties

Installed:
  • LED headlights
  • New windshield
  • VFR750 levers for clutch and front brake
  • New grips and throttle tube
  • New air filter
  • OEM handlebar mounts
  • Handlebar plastics
  • New brake light switch for front brake lever
  • Left air tube thing

Replaced:
  • Switch pods (left and right)
  • Metric-ton of fairing screws

Discovered:
  • Two metric-tons of dirt on EVERYTHING
  • EGR/PAIR mini-filter thing has a clip missing
  • I need air filter gaskets
  • Why the bike was totaled (it was dropped on it's right-side) Engine guard is scratched and is off by 1cm, handlebar is slightly bent on the right as well
  • Handlebars are missing their internal weights
  • I HATE the stupid bar ends someone installed
  • No way anyone has touched these carbs in a VERY long time
  • Despite my disdain for rat-can-flat-black motorcycles, I think I'll keep it black but add sparkles and a proper 2K clear-coat
  • Mid-left fairing is broken from the frame on the front-most frame bolt
  • The fairings are a pain in the behind to remove
  • Everything has a light dusting of rust or oxidation.
Broke:
  • Screw for the battery cage retainer
  • Any hope of thinking this would be a fast turn-around project
 

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Yeah I blurred the license and registration photos... also removed the meta-data from the images... the internet is not what it used to be...
 
Parts on hand waiting to be installed:
  • New springs for fork
  • Fork rebuild kit
  • Master and slave cylinder rebuild kits all around
  • Braided front brake lines (2x direct from single banjo)
  • Brake pads all around
  • Fog lights
  • Base coat paint, Glitter effects coat paint, 2-part 2K clear paint
  • Front and rear wheel bearings
  • New tires
  • New silicone coolant hoses and o-rings
  • Moly paste and o-rings for spline
  • Bucket of grease
  • New oil filter (again)
  • Oil (again)
  • Brake fluid for flush
  • Coolant for flush
  • Apple Car-Play screen
  • Goldwing front footpegs

Need to buy:
  • Right engine guard
  • Air Filter Housing O-Rings (wow these are NOWHERE)
  • Clear front signal lenses
  • LED tail lights
  • LED signal relay
  • USB-C Power Adaptors
  • Bluetooth headset for helmet
  • Honda logos and marks
  • Gear oil for drive shaft
  • Seals for panniers
  • Braided hose for clutch
  • Braided hose for rear brake
  • Front-right-mid fairing
  • Another metric ton of fairing screws
  • Rear spring and damper
  • Stock handlebar and internal weights
  • Stock bar-end weights
  • Sissy-bar and arm-rests for passenger (preferably stow-able)
  • Passenger floorboards if there is any room for that
  • New Carbs to clean and prep to swap-in

Need to remove:
  • Top-Trunk rack
  • Stickers
  • EGR/PAIR system (don't even care for the chrome tubes)
  • Dirt and grime for 62K miles and 24 Years

Need to figure out:
  • How to make the bike look a little less 1990's (this is personal taste)
  • How to make the bike not stink like a lawnmower when I ride it
  • How to shift out of first to second without grinding gears (all other shifts are fine)
  • How I am going to paint the bike
  • What I'm going to do about the painted gusto-grey parts
  • If I like the stock seat shape and color
 
How do you do that, please?
Two ways.

First was export photo as JPEG (from default RAW format) in the export dialog I de-selected meta-data like location and camera facts.

Second is to screen-shot the image effectively taking a picture of the picture but from the computer. screenshots by nature do not have any meta data and so it's effectively scrubbed of original information. screenshot of a picture also changes hashes of original photos... in case you are interested in using a photo but do not want to have that photo's hash identified as existing not he internets somewhere else...

My day job is professional nerd.

For example I 100% intend to do this mod: https://hackaday.com/2021/05/25/put...e-tail-light-shows-how-trivial-becomes-tough/ which is CRAZY because I've been a hack-a-day reader for like... since they started!
 
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