New Garmin Zumo XT

Hi Mark:

I think your proposed mounting location is perfect - it is exactly where I have mine, and I have been very happy with it. I don't think it's a good idea to mount the device off-centerline on a clutch or brake master cylinder, because you then run the risk of creating unwanted steering inputs when you use the touchscreen.

Aftermarket vendors sell devices that mount between the handlebars and have a RAM-Mount ball on them to allow you to mount the device in the middle. In my case, I purchased a Heli-Bars riser plate with a RAM-Mount ball, that killed two birds with one stone - moved the handlebars back and up a bit, and provided the mounting location for the GPS.

Michael

GPS Mounting
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No, not at all. My experience is that I hear the voice prompt, then briefly glance down at the device for visual confirmation of the maneuver. It's pretty much on the same line of sight as the speedometer - it's not a problem to look at it when necessary. If anything, I think it's better than having the thing up high and in view all the time, which I think would be distracting, especially when riding at night.

MIchael
Michael - that would be a perfect place I think. Out of the way when you dont want to see it - just a glance when you do.
 
So the XT has the TPMS receiver already built in? Personally, I like a stand-alone TPMS because I always want to see my TPMS, but I don't always want to have my GPS mounted. I'd hate to have to buy a whole new GPS just because the TPMS quit working.
I believe the stem gadgets are bluetooth and the 'sensor' on the GPS is simply an app. So it would just be a matter of making the bluetooth pairing and then installing the app.
 
I believe the stem gadgets are bluetooth and the 'sensor' on the GPS is simply an app. So it would just be a matter of making the bluetooth pairing and then installing the app.
Most TPMS systems are not BT. Looks like Garmin Zumos use ANT technology, not BT. Maybe the XT is different?

My point is, don't assume you can just buy the sensors and it will work with a SW update, unless Garmin specifically says so for the XT.
 
Most TPMS systems are not BT. Looks like Garmin Zumos use ANT technology, not BT. Maybe the XT is different?

My point is, don't assume you can just buy the sensors and it will work with a SW update, unless Garmin specifically says so for the XT.
I have no idea what they are - you are probably right. I called Garmin and he indicated that they were considering adding the ability to see Garmin TPMS sensors.
 
I have no idea what they are - you are probably right. I called Garmin and he indicated that they were considering adding the ability to see Garmin TPMS sensors.
Understood. Either way, I look forward to more comments from you about this new GPS. :thumb:
 
...I called Garmin and he indicated that they were considering adding the ability to see Garmin TPMS sensors.
That sounds like the kind of comments the service tech says when he wants to impress you, but really knows nothing about anything.

Another name for that is vaporware. I really would not bet on Garmin adding the ability to monitor TPMS readouts, and especially to monitor them inexpensively.

Chris
 
The unit comes with a gadget that is designed to mount on either the clutch or front brake assembly. I 'think' I can drill two holes in the right handlebar - relatively small holes - Open to suggestions on that.

I am a bit disappointed that it does not support the Garmin TPMS system at the moment and talked to Garmin. I am told that they are considering updating the software to include TPMS.

Please don't drill any holes into the handlebars. Not the best idea. Especially when other stuff will do what you want. I'm not real familiar with the 13 but there is a ram ball mount riser plate you could use. Heli bar brand? Also I think a ram ball stem mount works when the cover between the bars are removed. I'm sure others with them would be glad to share ideas.

I'm glad to hear it comes with the handlebar mount. Least the big cost of it can be offset by not having to buy extra mounting options.

Would have to get the TPMS upgrade before I could think of buying it. Let's hope that it does.
 
Dang.... I am doing all of this work to put a GPS on my bike and Corona may shut down my abiity to go anywhere. I can sit in my garage - put a fan up - and go vroom vroom!
 
Dang.... I am doing all of this work to put a GPS on my bike and Corona may shut down my ability to go anywhere.
Well, there are two ways of looking at that coronavirus-inspired problem.

From your perspective, you're at home and are wondering about not being able to leave home.

From my perspective, I am in a little town in Tunisia on the northern edge of the Sahara desert, wondering if, when, and how I am ever going to be able to get home. :oops:

It reminds me of an old saying in the aviation industry: "It's better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air than to be in the air wishing you were on the ground".

Michael
 
I considered the mount on a RAM ball between the bars option very hard. It seemed like the perfect place - juts below the instrument panel and apparently directly in front.

But then I tried it out with a dummy satnav (OK - it was a bit of card stuck on a bent metal rod secured to my tank bag mount). And for me, it just did not work. I'm 6'4" and struggle to see the standard indicator bulbs on the dash - the small hood gets in the line of vision. The glance down takes my eyes off the road for too long - the glance down, the re-focus and read/observe takes far too long. I don't mean time, I mean the distance that the bike covers before my eyes are lifted back up to the road.

So I got the drill out.

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Here is where mine is mounted. That is my old 660. The 590 mounts in the same place.Not in direct line of sight, but it is in my peripheral vision. It takes less of a glance to be able to absorb what it says on the screen, and what is ahead is still in my field of vision. The mount is a RAM ball mount bolted through the plastic shelf with two holes. The RAM is mounted on a thick rubber sheet, cut to size. Underneath has a circular rubber sheet and a sturdy piece of Aluminium sheet cut to size to spread the load. I won't bore you with the details, but I can dig them out if you want. I've had this arrangement on all of my Pans and it has never been a problem selling them. I just leave the RAM ball on the bike and the buyer sees a really useful RAM ball mount, and not two holes drilled into the fairing ! Positioning of the mount is crucial though - get it wrong and the screen will close down on the satnav.

For a while I still looked jealously at people who had the Migsel mount - but the more I thought about it, I decided that I prefer it mounted to the left. I think I'd probably put it on the right if I drove on the right hand side of the road.

Speaking of Migsel - there is an alternative available at Bike Quip which looks neat and tidy and I think mounts directly onto the existing fairing holes on the top shelf.


I think @Uncle Phil may spot the location of my ST1300 in the photo. If not there is a handy lat/long display on the satnav !!
I dont have my drill out yet but am thinking about it.

The GPS looks good there.
 
I found this and took a chance on it. It says that the adhesive is 'permanent' - I dont know how permanent that is but it doesnt require drilling and for $8 plus shipping I thought it was worth a try. At least my drill is still in the tool chest for now.

I already have a bar riser and dont want to replace it to get the Heli Bar with a GPS ball on it.

 
Well, there are two ways of looking at that coronavirus-inspired problem.

From your perspective, you're at home and are wondering about not being able to leave home.

From my perspective, I am in a little town in Tunisia on the northern edge of the Sahara desert, wondering if, when, and how I am ever going to be able to get home. :oops:

It reminds me of an old saying in the aviation industry: "It's better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air than to be in the air wishing you were on the ground".

Michael
Hang in there Michael. I am betting you will be able to make it home.
 
Michael,
Being a Canadian, with a Canadian passport, you will probably be able to get home. It may mean rerouting from mainland EU to the UK first though. As it stands now, there is no restrictions for flights from EU to Canada. A bigger problem may be purely logistical if airlines curtail their flights simply due to low load factors.
That being said, the situation is VERY fluid, and changing almost hourly. Once the politics and hysteria die down (no pun intended) things will probably settle out to be as normal as possible. How much longer were you planning on being in Tunisia anyway?
 
Ah, Beggarman's Road. And yes it was Ribblehead Viaduct I was talking about. I knew it looked familiar because we visited both on the ride out that day. So you were sitting at the top of hill looking down and I think we came from the opposite direction.
Good memories!

 
It has been raining here for the past two or three days so today is the first day I could take a first ride with the Zumo XT.
1 - As someone who hasn't had a GPS on a bike before, I have to say that I like it.
2 - I have some Airpods and linked them with the Zumo so I found that I didnt really need to look down at the screen very often when navigating - this is kinda nice.
3 - The design of the unit is perfect. The size and brightness are pleasing to look at and the screen is nice and big. It puts your next turn at the top of the screen in big letters which is nice for those of us who are age challenged and usually need readers.
Overall - thumbs up for now. I still have to permanently mount it and run power- that will come in the next few weeks.
 
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I wonder if like every other Garmin GPS it still ignores your "unpaved roads" avoidance

and sends you and your 700 lb. bike with street tires through the North American equivalent of the Darian Gap???
 
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