Lighter Bike Search

I put 110,000 miles on my ST 1300 most of it 2 up. I then picked up a CB 1100 (still have with 70,000 miles on it and I love it!) but my wife refuses to ride on it. So I picked up an FJR and put 35,000 miles on it, some of it 2 up as my wife didn't like riding on it near as much as the ST. Finally she decided she was done riding so I traded the FJR in on a 21 NC750X for my solo riding. I have 27,000 miles on it. It's a nice bike, particularly for a solo ride and the occasional trip, but it's no cross-country tourer IMO, and I wouldn't consider it a two up bike unless you are both young and skinny. It does tour, but being chain drive (most bikes are these days) and only 58 hp, there is not a lot "in reserve" if you get my drift. The bags are expensive for it and it requires a new windshield and probably a new seat to be tour worthy...those seem to be big replacement items on the NC board. No cruise available. Some use cramp busters but those are not recommended for the DCT models. I have ridden mine through about 8 states I think, and headed from Ohio to Wisconsin at the end of the month, and another trip planned to Tennessee/North Carolina on it later in the year.. Riding solo however.

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Although I'm not a cruiser guy, the new 1100 Rebel cruiser from Honda with DCT and batwing fairing and bags might be worth a look/test ride if you can find one, has the same motor as the Africa Twin ADV bike/NT 1100 sport tourer so should have close to 100 hp and lots of torque. Doesn't come with a passenger seat however, and certainly no rear rack/trunk. Suzuki is also coming out with a naked 800 that might be work a look. The Suzuki 1000GT certainly seems nice, as does the Kawasaki Ninja 1000 sport tourer but they are pretty sporty I think.

Really you need to assess what your REAL needs are in a motorcycle and shop from there.

The Enfields, Kaw W 650 and Moto Guzzi's (except for the Mandello) are really small physically for 2 people and have even less hp than the NC 750.

Its a mess. There really is a need for a mid-size 800-900cc touring motorcycle as so many of us aging riders are getting older, and need/want something smaller/ lighter but don't want to give up touring or the comforts that come with a true sport touring bike. The Yamaha 900 triple comes close but it's so tall and it's passenger accommodations are sparse. That bike with a 31" seat height would be "ok". Or the NT 1100 which Honda won't bring here, ...with a shorter seat height.

Best of luck in your search. It's a slim market out there for us.
 
Really you need to assess what your REAL needs are in a motorcycle and shop from there.
That was an outstanding post. Your NC750X looks to be good solution for solo riding. The chain drive is a deal breaker for me though it's been mentioned many times that today's chains are not my father's drive chains and I'm aware. But they're still chains.

Shopping from REAL needs makes a huge difference in long term pleasure down the road. Unless you have the wallet and space to shop from WANTS and MOODS. That's not me — but only from a lack of cubic $Billions.
 
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This is not actually a lighter bike, but it’s my wife’s.
Sheer blast to ride, no bike skills required or planting your feet down at stop lights.
She has the 2016 that we bought in 2017, Can Am F3 limited.
OEM Heated grips and a fantastic stereo system.
iPhone compatible also.
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I like the NC750X that Mr Ferret describes. As others have mentioned, it's the chain drive that puts me off... and I'm reluctant to lose the V4 engine. That's why I have a VFR1200X Crosstourer.

But for those who can tolerate a chain and want something in the 800cc range, how about the Crossrunner VFR800X?

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It's 98hp, and has a V-TEC V4 engine. It's a bit heavier than the NC750X though at 242kg (534lb).
 
... its always in gear, lean on that little tab just a little bit and the bike will take off with no way to disengage the power. (No clutch)
But there is a button to put it in neutral when you stop at junctions, traffic lights etc.

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(I know, I never use it either!)
 
Many of us have years of chain maintenance under our tires, and it wasn't even all that bad, until we became spoiled by the ST drive train.
I absolutely love it, but lack of a shaft would not deter me from an otherwise desirable motorbike.
There are few good dual sport or "Adventure" bikes with shaft drive. (But I'm gonna have one of them.) The very fact a bike DOES have a shaft drive, necessitates extra weight that many are trying to get away from.
So that requirement means you are limiting your selection, right out the gate.
Just pointing out the obvious...
 
That was an outstanding post. Your NC750X looks to be good solution for solo riding. The chain drive is a deal breaker for me though it's been mentioned many times that today's chains are not my father's drive chains and I'm aware. But they're still chains.

The chain on my NC made it 23,000 miles, required little maintenance between tire changes, and infrequent lubing... BUT... replacement chain and sprockets plus labor ( because I am not mechanically inclined) was about $400. If I put as many miles on the NC as I did on the ST that translates to $1200 in driveline repair that probably would have been avoided with a shaft drive. Honda used to make shaft drive bikes down to 500cc ( CX 500 for example) and my grandson's 50cc Yamaha dirt bike has a shaft. Trouble is, most the average motorcyclists only rides about 2500 miles per year ( the reason so many really low mileage used bikes are out there) and a single 23,000 mile chain will last longer than the average motorcyclist will own the bike. Probably longer than the first 3 owners of the bike. Manufacturers have no incentive to put shaft drive systems on motorcycles.
 
But there is a button to put it in neutral when you stop at junctions, traffic lights etc.

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(I know, I never use it either!)

Lol grab for it when you've launched yourself towards the back of the car sitting in front of you at a light.
 
I like the NC750X that Mr Ferret describes. As others have mentioned, it's the chain drive that puts me off... and I'm reluctant to lose the V4 engine. That's why I have a VFR1200X Crosstourer.

But for those who can tolerate a chain and want something in the 800cc range, how about the Crossrunner VFR800X?

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It's 98hp, and has a V-TEC V4 engine. It's a bit heavier than the NC750X though at 242kg (534lb).

Would be awesome, but we dont get it in the states
 
This is my other ride; it is light, fast, handles great and has a really nice riding position that distributes weight ncely between hands, feet and posterior. This one is still on its original chain at 38000km which is remarkable as it puts out colossal torque and is only a lightweight 525 size. I put that down to improvements in chain construction and me being a fussy blighter when it comes to cleaning and tensioning. The MT's crossplane engine has the same firing order as a 180 degree V4, and makes some terrific noises with few annoying vibes. I wish Yamaha would make a "Tracer" version with a larger tank and proper fairing, but this one is perfectly OK for up to an 800km day.
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"Would be awesome, but we dont get it in the states"

Sheesh.... another one you don't get.

Curse you, Honda! :mad:
 
Because its always in gear, lean on that little tab just a little bit and the bike will take off with no way to disengage the power. (No clutch)
I used cramp busters on my Africa Twin DCT without any issues. Actually I just took the throttle side off as I put on a McCruise now but rode with them on both grips for a couple of years. I have three vertebrae fused and nerve damage and the cramp busters helped me a lot as gripping caused me a lot of pain and hand stiffness when riding long distances.
 
Maybe take a look at the BMW F800GT. I picked up a 2013 model recently, and at around 470 lbs, aluminum frame, and 90 horsepower, not to mention the belt drive, you could do worse. I'm not easy on the gas, and have never gotten less than 50mpg. This bike has thoroughly impressed me.
 
Maybe take a look at the BMW F800GT. I picked up a 2013 model recently, and at around 470 lbs, aluminum frame, and 90 horsepower, not to mention the belt drive, you could do worse. I'm not easy on the gas, and have never gotten less than 50mpg. This bike has thoroughly impressed me.
That is a great bike, wish BMW would have continued it.
 
For my bikes that do not have a factory or aftermarket cruise control I use the simple GO Cruise throttle lever. When set it bears against the brake lever and sets a minimum speed but allows rolling on a bit of throttle to pass slower vehicles or go up grade. After the pass is completed the speed settles back to the set speed without re-adjusting it back to the preset speed. Rolling the throttle off pushes the GC to a neutral position. Nothing works like a real cruise control but the GC has worked well for me on my NC700X. On flat ground it holds speed indefinitely.
 
I used cramp busters on my Africa Twin DCT without any issues. Actually, I just took the throttle side off as I put on a McCruise now but rode with them on both grips for a couple of years. I have three vertebrae fused and nerve damage and the cramp busters helped me a lot as gripping caused me a lot of pain and hand stiffness when riding long distances.

Wow, you must have been very careful. I use one on my CB1100 with a clutch and sometimes get a startling inadvertent jump when turning into a parking lot or some other low speed maneuver which I have to quickly pull the clutch in for. I wouldn't even attempt it on my 750DCT knowing how sensitive the throttle is. I wish I could.

I'm going to try one of the GO Cruises DDuelin is talking about. I have one in my mc junk drawer, but I haven't had much luck with one on my other bikes.
 
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