Lifting an ST1300

Andrew Shadow said:
Absolutely it could held with straps, anything can be done, but you will need a lot of attachment points to prevent movement which is what you want if you are doing any task that requires imparting any amount of force to accomplish. Suspending a motorcycle from the legs of an automobile lift is not the same as mechanically lifting a motorcycle using an automobile lift. If you are going to be working on an 800 Lb. motorcycle that is suspended from the air you don't want to be around it with it suspended from normal tie-down straps let alone working on it. I know I wouldn't. I would only use properly rated lifting slings that are designed for continuous load suspension. Even with that you should never be close to or underneath a suspended load for any length of time while it is suspended let alone working on it. Even if you have proper slings to minimize the risk you then have all of the stabilization straps that you are using to attempt to keep it where you want it that will be in your way when you are working on the motorcycle. After having done all of that it still won't be as stable or safe as it would be sitting on a lift table.

I am not suggesting that this can't be done, of course it can. If it is the only option available go ahead and use what you have but set it up so that it safe for you to be around it, which is to mechanically lift it rather than suspend it. In my opinion it is not a good idea to be working on an 800 Lb. suspended load. A lift table is a better option if it is an option that is available. Once the motorcycle is on the lift table everything is accessible while it is much more secure, more safe, and much more stable even with both wheels removed at the same time.
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:bigpop: I think everyone has had a fair shot at it now. I am a world master at trading gold, forex, etc. In order to do that, I only work with facts, not opinions. The purpose of the post was a fact finding gathering. I shall see how we get on now. I did say earlier lifting tables are out due to cost and they are too low for my back. I had one, I sold it, I said all that. I was looking for a better solution. Amen now :) Appreciate all inputs.
 
meta said:
Here's a technical question for you knowledgeable people....

If one wanted to lift an ST1300 with a crane or forklift, do you think this could be done? Could ratchet straps or a good rope be put around it "somewhere" to lift it evenly balanced, it could be one forward strap and one rear., But around what. Could the grap handles take the weight for example? Could the handle bars or yoke take the weight?
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Sidekick said:
While inspecting the wheel alignment, I wish I had taken more photos. I also experimented with using the front and rear crash bars together to lift the bike, which provided easier access to the clutch master cylinder. However, the rear handles were only used for balance, not for lifting.
Although lifting the bike was feasible, putting it down was more difficult. I wouldn't recommend this method.
Since then, I've discovered a more secure way to lift the bike using straps by attaching them to the frame under the seat and the crash bars.

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I have been lifting my ST like this since I got my lift but I think I will be using the crash bars now that I have seen them being used for that. The crash bars will work even better
 

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Thinking outside the box. You don’t need straps to lift the bike you need a floor you can pull up with straps.

Park the bike on the movable floor and lift the floor to 4 or 5 feet up. Stick “legs” like sawhorses under the floor. You’ll have full access to the bike without bending over.

Like Mellow said, you only need the bike 4” off the floor to remove everything on the bike.
 
Rather late to the original question, but it has been nudged awake again so I'll add a picture

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and a link

www.abbastands.co.uk

Sky Lift

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It seems to be lifting on the swingarm bolts - so not much use without another kit if you want to remove the swining arm. I think straps secure it in the desired position.
But I do note that the ST1300 is not listed for the fitting kits (maybe the standard kit is ok). And I cannot find a maximum weight value.

But the idea is sound and there must be others around. I had a Big Blue Riser and it was a pain to get the bike mounted - it used the footpegs and it was a heavy balancing act to get those secured each time. And all of the mounting interefered with access to the things that you might want to access - the sump, the exhaust, the centre stand. I sold it. This looks infinitely better.

The 1300 rear grab handles are a cast alloy - but whether or not the cast alloy is strong enough to take the weight of the bike, I wouldn't know.
 
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Page 5 of the Set Up Instructions has a picture of what appears to be engine guard and grab rail slings traveling to a singe point of convergence too high for what I've got.
It looks like [I'll throw a dart] 75% of the bike might be on the engine guards, so there's probably no more than a couple hundred pounds at the grab rails, I mean, they're grab rails, wouldn't work very well for Honda if your passenger handed them to you at the next red light.
In my low roof situation, I think I could secure an 8' beam between two joists and use adjustable posts at each end.
I think by the time I get some tension on a couple of ratchet straps [two on each side] I could probably just lift and gradually adjust a couple of 6T jack stands under the end of the tip over bars as it comes up. It'll be so fun... I hope it doesn't fall
 
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