Lifting an ST1300

A question for you, what is doing the lifting? Do you have two winches, two cranes, or a fork lift? Why not buy a skylift (PM @Mellow for info), though I think using one of those will do more damage to your body than the straps.

Before @Paul posted his link to the instructions, I was going to suggest removing the seat and trying to thread straps around the frame rails as far aft as you can. Tip over bars and the frame rails should do it better than the grab handles.
yes I might see if can get strap around frame at rear, this would be good
I can lift it with a 2 post car lift and adjust the arms to where required providing 4 seperate lifting points
 
While inspecting the wheel alignment, I wish I had taken more photos. I also experimented with using the front and rear crash bars together to lift the bike, which provided easier access to the clutch master cylinder. However, the rear handles were only used for balance, not for lifting.
Although lifting the bike was feasible, putting it down was more difficult. I wouldn't recommend this method.
Since then, I've discovered a more secure way to lift the bike using straps by attaching them to the frame under the seat and the crash bars.

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thanks for that.... that the kind of idea i had in mind, lifted with a car ramp, 2 post, 4 arms.
I have seen the guys videos where they make a rig to fit the car lift to take the bike, but that means fabricating that together. I may do this one day but just wondering if I can get the bike up without it for now. So its all under contemplation lol.
 
thanks for that.... that the kind of idea i had in mind,
@Sidekick is lifting the bike aft by hooking onto either Bygdawg tip over bars or modified GW bars. These both attach to the frame solidly with two 10mm? (at least 8mm) bolts each side and are about as secure a lifting point as one can find on the bike. If lifting the bike to service it is what you plan for the future, I'd suggest either fabricating or buying a pair of the tip over guards mentioned. The front and rear TO bars are the way to go. The added benefit to the rear bars, of course, is protection in a drop.

Lifting the bike 5' in the air to change the oil might be a bit like standing next to a horse when he urinates. :biggrin:
 
All you need to lift the bike enough to get the front wheels off is any automotive jack, remove fender and just lift under the engine enough to get the wheel about an inch off the ground.

Good info here
yes I had one of those once, sold it. One still has to be crouching down or bending with that, is the problem
 
@Sidekick is lifting the bike aft by hooking onto either Bygdawg tip over bars or modified GW bars. These both attach to the frame solidly with two 10mm? (at least 8mm) bolts each side and are about as secure a lifting point as one can find on the bike. If lifting the bike to service it is what you plan for the future, I'd suggest either fabricating or buying a pair of the tip over guards mentioned. The front and rear TO bars are the way to go. The added benefit to the rear bars, of course, is protection in a drop.

Lifting the bike 5' in the air to change the oil might be a bit like standing next to a horse when he urinates. :biggrin:
Lifting the bike 5' in the air to change the oil might be a bit like standing next to a horse when he urinates....
one puts the drain catch basin on top of a car engine support stand jack
 
yes I had one of those once, sold it. One still has to be crouching down or bending with that, is the problem
There were pics and links to a number of lifts in Mellow's thread. Your two post car lift, however, is a home run compared to a bunt.
 
Honda's instructions are to lift the motorcycle by attaching straps to the front engine tip-over guards and the rear passenger grab rails. Most of the weight is carried by the tip-over bars. The straps on the grab rails provide stabilization. Because the lifting point is high up with the weight hanging below it the weight naturally keeps the motorcycle in the vertical position when it is lifted.

I have an overhead crane in my garage and I have lifted my ST1300 using the grab rails. Other then putting soft rags around the grab rails to protect the paint from the straps I didn't worry about it. If Honda's instructions are to lift the motorcycle using these four points I don't see why anyone should be concerned about doing so.
 
Easiest and safest tool for your purposes would seem to be a motorcycle maintenance lift table. With the bike on the center stand you can take both wheels off if you want (but do have to support the front end on something). I don’t do any maintenance, including oil changes, unless its on the table.

I have (only) 2 motorcycles, and I always park one on the lift to save floor space in the garage.
 
With a 2-post car lift you should be golden.

I don't, but an Abba Skylift is on my list. @Mellow has one for his large bike, and the adapter is available for the ST1300.
 
Easiest and safest tool for your purposes would seem to be a motorcycle maintenance lift table. With the bike on the center stand you can take both wheels off if you want (but do have to support the front end on something). I don’t do any maintenance, including oil changes, unless its on the table.

I have (only) 2 motorcycles, and I always park one on the lift to save floor space in the garage.
You can find a 1,000-pound electric hoist for under $150, but a quality lifting table can be more expensive.
I haven't found a better, less intrusive way to access all areas of the bike than lifting it with straps. This DIY solution is affordable, easy to implement, and secure as long as you use sturdy beams and follow proper safety guidelines.
Lifting tables offer convenience but can obstruct access to certain areas around the bike. They also require storage space when not in use.
 
They also require storage space when not in use.
If you already have a overhead lifting device of some kind in your garage capable of lifting the ST1300, it can also be used to store the lift table up in the air and off of the floor depending on the height available. Using proper rigging equipment, and safety chains secured to something other than the hoist, it presents no danger being stored in the air.
 
If you already have a overhead lifting device of some kind in your garage capable of lifting the ST1300, it can also be used to store the lift table up in the air and off of the floor depending on the height available. Using proper rigging equipment, and safety chains secured to something other than the hoist, it presents no danger being stored in the air.
Absolutely possible, but why not just lifting the bike then, am I my missing something?
 
Easiest and safest tool for your purposes would seem to be a motorcycle maintenance lift table. With the bike on the center stand you can take both wheels off if you want (but do have to support the front end on something). I don’t do any maintenance, including oil changes, unless its on the table.

I have (only) 2 motorcycles, and I always park one on the lift to save floor space in the garage.
ah but these lifts cost quite a bit of cash. You also have to stoop over them and under them. The 2 post car ramp cost £700 and does the cars too, so better economy long term. Also handy for helping the neighbour/pals out with car stuff.
 
Absolutely possible, but why not just lifting the bike then, am I my missing something?
Because it is rare that what you are doing will not cause the motorcycle to sway and move around while you are trying to work on it while it is suspended in the air. This is frustrating, inconvenient, and possibly dangerous. It is even more rare that any maintenance task being performed on a motorcycle is made more difficult because of using a lift table. The stability, safety, and convenience of the lift table is always present however.
 
Because it is rare that what you are doing will not cause the motorcycle to sway and move around while you are trying to work on it while it is suspended in the air. This is frustrating, inconvenient, and possibly dangerous. It is even more rare that any maintenance task being performed on a motorcycle is made more difficult because of using a lift table. The stability, safety, and convenience of the lift table is always present however.
The bike wouldn't need to be swinging around in the air, it could be held with straps on each side to the ramp posts and an engine jack could be brought underneath to make sound contact.
 
The bike wouldn't need to be swinging around in the air, it could be held with straps on each side to the ramp posts and an engine jack could be brought underneath to make sound contact.
Absolutely it could held with straps, anything can be done, but you will need a lot of attachment points to prevent movement which is what you want if you are doing any task that requires imparting any amount of force to accomplish. Suspending a motorcycle from the legs of an automobile lift is not the same as mechanically lifting a motorcycle using an automobile lift. If you are going to be working on an 800 Lb. motorcycle that is suspended from the air you don't want to be around it with it suspended from normal tie-down straps let alone working on it. I know I wouldn't. I would only use properly rated lifting slings that are designed for continuous load suspension. Even with that you should never be close to or underneath a suspended load for any length of time while it is suspended let alone working on it. Even if you have proper slings to minimize the risk you then have all of the stabilization straps that you are using to attempt to keep it where you want it that will be in your way when you are working on the motorcycle. After having done all of that it still won't be as stable or safe as it would be sitting on a lift table.

I am not suggesting that this can't be done, of course it can. If it is the only option available go ahead and use what you have but set it up so that it safe for you to be around it, which is to mechanically lift it rather than suspend it. In my opinion it is not a good idea to be working on an 800 Lb. suspended load. A lift table is a better option if it is an option that is available. Once the motorcycle is on the lift table everything is accessible while it is much more secure, more safe, and much more stable even with both wheels removed at the same time.
 
While inspecting the wheel alignment, I wish I had taken more photos. I also experimented with using the front and rear crash bars together to lift the bike, which provided easier access to the clutch master cylinder. However, the rear handles were only used for balance, not for lifting.
Although lifting the bike was feasible, putting it down was more difficult. I wouldn't recommend this method.
Since then, I've discovered a more secure way to lift the bike using straps by attaching them to the frame under the seat and the crash bars.

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I wouldn’t use the rear crash bars to lift. They aren’t an integral structural part of the motorcycle. They are aftermarket bolt-ons.
 
I wouldn’t use the rear crash bars to lift. They aren’t an integral structural part of the motorcycle. They are aftermarket bolt-ons.
+1 It makes me think of positive and negative Gs on airplane wings. The stress anticipated for the crash bars is completely different than that imposed by lifting from them. With additonal points utilized the rear crash bars could probably be used more for stability than actual lift. That's all a WAG on my part. Not even a SWAG. So good luck.
 
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