NT1100 coming to the USA - FOR REALS!

After the ST the NT would be a mid-size bike to me. To some it's an oversized scooter. I'm just not crazy about the look. I viewed my V65 Sabre as mid-size. Even my GL1000. I saw one a few weeks ago and couldn't believe how much smaller it seemed to the ST. A V-65 Sabre with DCT...

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Even an 850.
 
southpaw said:
Absolutely zero interest in an oversized scooter. DCT is for people who don't know how to ride motorcycles
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Not so sure, After my German Bakery Run to Colorado Springs and the return trip home through the foothill's back canyons with my V-Strom 650, my 75 year old left wrist was thinking about that DCT. Where I do my daily rides there is a lot of shifting up and down through the canyons. Going to give it some thought. I have been riding for over 43 years. I believe I can and know how to ride motorcycles. Each to his own.
 
ST Gui said:
After the ST the NT would be a mid-size bike to me. To some it's an oversized scooter.
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Back in the 70's, we thought a Honda 750 was a huge bike.

dduelin said:
Sad that so many still associate manhood with shifting.
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Manhood is only associated with shifting in your mind. :D I prefer shifting on a bike. On a car, give me an automatic. Does that make me less of a man? It doesn't have to be either or.

Chris
 
I guess my Manhood comes and goes, :biggrin: When I feel especially Manly I will take my Jeep Wrangler out for a drive, as it is a 6 speed manual. And when I am a bit lazy and my manliness is not as strong on that day, I will drive my Chevy Colorado which has an 8 speed automatic tranny. One can not even find a pickup truck with a manual transmission anymore, and don't even look for them in a car, with very few exceptions. As of late, my left wrist is questioning the manliness of riding my manual tranny motorcycles. Age does strange things to the mind and body. :rofl1:
 
I enjoy the "sporty" manual transmission in the MX5. The Wing and VFR both have DCT's and I think they're both great. Interestingly, the concept of a "character bike" comes to mind. To slot into that category, the bike will probably be an air cooled big V-twin, with a manual tranny. Is that the reason for the success of H-D, and now Indian? Actually, I do enjoy my big Yamaha Venture - shifting the clunky gear mechanism, and listening to the throbbing exhaust - that's character!
 
I just checked the Honda MC website- looks nice but they should make it with full bags (not as accessory items)- I outfitted one with all the bags (side and top case) and it runs $13,800 or so. I do like it and DCT wouldn’t phase me at all (as it’s the only option). I think in order to save production costs, Honda decided to make just one model instead of DCT vs manual. Make them all the same I guess. It is lighter than the ST by ~ 125 or so lbs (I think the website indicated 587 lbs fully loaded). It reminds me of a Versys 1000.
 
Erdoc48 said:
I think in order to save production costs, Honda decided to make just one model instead of DCT vs manual.
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NT 1100 are available in Europe (and maybe elsewhere) without DCT though.

Erdoc48 said:
- looks nice but they should make it with full bags (not as accessory items).......
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On the other hand,...it gives riders the option to use whatever bags they want. Different bags, depending on usage. Heavy tourers may want to fit bigger bags and some may be fine with light soft luggage or none at all.
 
At 587 pounds that's more than I'd want to handle these days. If I were in the market for another sport touring bike that might push me over to the Tracer 900 GT @ 492 pounds. Then again right now I am happy with my NC 750 DCT @ 494 pounds. If I were ridng 2 up or doing a lot of freeway riding I'd probably get something other than the NC though. Just a personal feeling. A lot of people find the NC fine for freeway work but I'd prefer some more reserve hp for that purpose.
 
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the Ferret said:
At 587 pounds that's more than I'd want to handle these days. If I were in the market for another sport touring bike that might push me over to the Tracer 900 GT @ 492 pounds. Then again right now I am happy with my NC 750 DCT @ 494 pounds. If I were ridng 2 up or doing a lot of freeway riding I'd probably get something other than the NC though. Just a personal feeling. A lot of people find the NC fine for freeway work but I'd prefer some more reserve hp for that purpose.
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And this brings us back to the Kawasaki Versys line The X300, ( great little bike, a do every thing little machine.) The Versys 650, (I like my 650 V-Strom fits me a bit better) and the Versys 1000 SE or the new 1100 SE. (A tall machine but smooth as butter, has the power for the long distance and the agility for the canyons.) I believe the Versys model line is under rated. Although the new NT1100 might bring me back into the Honda Fold.
 
Daboo said:
Back in the 70's, we thought a Honda 750 was a huge bike.
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Absolutely! :oops: It was huge compared to my 305 Scrambler. When I'd had my GL1000 for a year a neighbor bought a 750-4 and asked be to ride it home for him. It it was tiny! Still not a scooter. :D
 
This AM, I looked up the specs for my ST1100 and the NT1100. They’re almost the same (~ 101 HP/82 ft-lbs for the ST and 101 HP/77 ft-lbs for the NT)- the NT has a weight advantage and chain drive so I guess less power/torque loss via the chain vs driveshaft. I’m not sure I’d gain much by getting one, but I do like it.
 
Joeywhat said:
I wish they'd have a manual option. Seems that Honda especially is pushing the automatics hard. The DCT is a hard pass for me.
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Manual is available in Europe (and Canada apparently) but only 1 in 3 buyers picks it over DCT, and sometimes not because they really don't want the DCT, but because of the $1000 premium.

So Honda is going with the market.

And there are many reviewers who first expressed disappointment for not being able to test ride a manual and then, after riding the DCT, said they'd choose it over any manual (and you can still go manual with the DCT if you want to).

DCT or not, looks like the few that make it our way are sold before hitting the showroom anyway.
 
the Ferret said:
At 587 pounds that's more than I'd want to handle these days. If I were in the market for another sport touring bike that might push me over to the Tracer 900 GT @ 492 pounds. Then again right now I am happy with my NC 750 DCT @ 494 pounds. If I were riding 2 up or doing a lot of freeway riding, I'd probably get something other than the NC though. Just a personal feeling. A lot of people find the NC fine for freeway work, but I'd prefer some more reserve hp for that purpose.
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to counter myself above....(A) If I were 15 years younger..say 60 instead of 75 ...... (B) if my wife were still riding pillion ... she quit in 2020.... and (C) if I were still doing cross country tours, then the NT 1100 would be at the top of my want list right now. That or the Kaw 1000LT. But unfortunately for me all that is in the rear view mirror now

I'm not sure if I were 60 again, that I would have wanted a DCT version, but that is before spending the last 3 years riding a DCT bike and finding out how brilliant that transmission is. Now it's hard to imagine having my primary bike without a DCT trans.

I don't know if my dealer will get an NT...if so I will certainly go for a test sit, but I realize now that my needs have changed even if my wants haven't. I am afraid if he got in a 2025 NC 750 DCT, I might be in the mood for trading in my 2021 NC 750 DCT with 58,000 miles on it, for a zero-mile version of the same bike I have, figuring in all likelihood it would be my last bike, and a worthy bike to finish up on.
 
MidLife said:
- DCT
- IMU
- Semi Active Suspension
- Cruise Control
- Torque at lower RPM
- Improved mpg (by about 15 mpg)
- etc

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Point well taken- I guess I meant power and torque wise ( I didn’t make note of the other pluses in the earlier post). I do like it, but I guess I’m not ready to part with near $14K (but not really a bad price considering it’s 1/2 of what a GW costs). I have to see when my local dealership gets one- I’d like to see it in person and see if it fits me. I like the NC750 but I suspect I’m a little big/tall for it.
 
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