Tired of cheaply made tools from China?

I don't even know anyone with a JIS screwdriver. I broached the subject at my last meeting with fellow riders and I thought they were going to punch me. Most Canadians I know call screwdriver bits no 8 or no 6 Robertson, flat blade or star, that's it.
 
Chris09 said:
Most Canadians I know call screwdriver bits no 8 or no 6 Robertson
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What size scew do you drive with a #8 or #6 Robertson screwdriver bit?
It must be a huge screw!
I have only ever seen or heard of Robertson drivers numbers 1 through 4.
 
SMSW said:
The Chinese quality that Apple demanded is a bit nuanced. Yes, Apple demanded high quality, but also had its own quality control people on the floor in the Chinese factories. They demanded quality, and penalized the manufacturers if they did not comply with the contracts. This is not exactly the same as writing some specs, letting the contract, and taking delivery.

Of course, manufacturers in China are capable of turning out good quality merchandise, and of course, we have to pay for it, but it is not quite that simple.
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True- Trust but verify.
I know someone who goes to China 3 or 4 times a year for 2 to 3 weeks each time. She told me that all kinds of things are discussed and sorted out but most of that could be done remotely. The main reason that she goes is so that they see that the quality is important and that it is being monitored and that any slippage won't be accepted.
 
I tried to stick with Craftsman way back (which were better but are now just on par with most other brands). But too many nights I needed a certain tool and Sears was closed for the night, and I needed to finish the job. The El-Cheapos were still available at Wallyworld or the auto store and did the job. Not ideal, but it sufficed.

Today's tools are probably more on par with each other than ever considering that most brands are made in just a couple of factories. I don't need Matco or Snap-On quality, and the Craftsman tools that I've had forever still do a great job. And I'm running out of room to store tools, so I have to use more discretion for those bigger ticket items. No lie, some of today's Craftsman tools have been a miss and that's disappointing to me as a consumer-grade buyer. I'll still consider them over others when I have that choice, but if I have to get a job done now I'm gonna buy the tool that does it no matter what the brand.
 
I can't tell you how many rounded out and damaged screws and fasteners I've had to replace on just about every single ST that has come through the garage.
If you "have to get a job done", and you are going to "buy the tool that does it no matter what the brand", does that mean you'll settle for a tool that does not fit properly, rounds the head of the bolt, or fastener out, and then have to replace the damaged screw because you purchased a lower quality tool?
If you can't find the time to do it right, how are you going to find the time to do it over?
 
jdmccright said:
I tried to stick with Craftsman way back (which were better but are now just on par with most other brands). But too many nights I needed a certain tool and Sears was closed for the night, and I needed to finish the job. The El-Cheapos were still available at Wallyworld or the auto store and did the job. Not ideal, but it sufficed.

Today's tools are probably more on par with each other than ever considering that most brands are made in just a couple of factories. I don't need Matco or Snap-On quality, and the Craftsman tools that I've had forever still do a great job. And I'm running out of room to store tools, so I have to use more discretion for those bigger ticket items. No lie, some of today's Craftsman tools have been a miss and that's disappointing to me as a consumer-grade buyer. I'll still consider them over others when I have that choice, but if I have to get a job done now I'm gonna buy the tool that does it no matter what the brand.
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Unfortunately you are correct about today's tools being on par with each other, since almost every big box store brand comes from China, and the standards set, are to create profit for the stores, not quality for the folks purchasing them.
 
Chris09 said:
I don't even know anyone with a JIS screwdriver. I broached the subject at my last meeting with fellow riders and I thought they were going to punch me. Most Canadians I know call screwdriver bits no 8 or no 6 Robertson, flat blade or star, that's it.
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The Dot on the head of the screw indicates that its a JIS screw.
Most (but not all) JIS have these dots, at least on Japanese motorcycles.
IIRC this is a screw that was damaged by a Snap On screw driver.
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