Sena 20S EVO Bluetooth Question

I didn't think the 20S had a audio in jack, just a audio out.

You could also use a Sena SM-10 Bluetooth dongle. They are waterproof and can be mounted externally on the bikes. Run a audio cable from the Amps to the SM-10. Then just move the SM-10 when you switch bikes. This is what I did when I had the ST and K1600.
It does have a 2.5mm aux in, I use that for my radar detector as bluetooth options at the time had a 1 second delay in sending to the headset and I also didn't want to remember to charge a dongle that typically don't have good battery life.
 
It does have a 2.5mm aux in, I use that for my radar detector as bluetooth options at the time had a 1 second delay in sending to the headset and I also didn't want to remember to charge a dongle that typically don't have good battery life.
Ok, I couldn't remember. I've switched to Cardo units now.
 
It does have a 3.5mm aux in, I use that for my radar detector as bluetooth options at the time had a 1 second delay in sending to the headset and I also didn't want to remember to charge a dongle that typically don't have good battery life.
That's also an issue as the dongles don't have the battery life of the SENA from my recent road trip.
Did(do) you have any trouble with the SENA jack getting 'flaky' (going from Stereo to Mono because of wear)?
 
I didn't think the 20S had a audio in jack, just a audio out.

You could also use a Sena SM-10 Bluetooth dongle. They are waterproof and can be mounted externally on the bikes. Run a audio cable from the Amps to the SM-10. Then just move the SM-10 when you switch bikes. This is what I did when I had the ST and K1600.

Shoot, I even have a used SM-10 that I'll send you for the price of shipping.

Before anyone asks, the free SM-10 is a Uncle Phil only offer.
Mike - Let me know how much I owe you. I'll PM my address.
 
The Sena 20S will only allow BT connection to two Phones. See page 20 of the manual. These are dedicated connections as each has a code. As I have all my music, audible books and podcast on my phone, I only need to make one connection.

If you want to connect to a BT media only device, you have to make an A2DP connection. See page 24 of the manual. I believe the A2DP connection is not device specific so if you have the same model BT media device on multiple bikes, it should connect.

The 20S EVO does not have a line in connection for music, only a line out for earbuds.
 
That's also an issue as the dongles don't have the battery life of the SENA from my recent road trip.
Did(do) you have any trouble with the SENA jack getting 'flaky' (going from Stereo to Mono because of wear)?
No but I only use for radar detector alerts, the headset is paired to my zumo for music and route directions. I did get a small pigtail to my radar detector so I only unplug that and rarely unplug from the headset mount.
Something like this:
 
Actually, don't the s20 and s20 evo use the same mount? If so, that's where the aux in and ear bud out ports are.
 
If you want to connect to a BT media only device, you have to make an A2DP connection. See page 24 of the manual. I believe the A2DP connection is not device specific so if you have the same model BT media device on multiple bikes, it should connect.

The 20S EVO does not have a line in connection for music, only a line out for earbuds.
Andy - From the manual I got -

8 STEREO MUSIC
You can listen to stereo music in two ways: with the enclosed stereo
audio cable or by Bluetooth wireless stereo.
8.1 By Stereo Audio Cable
Plug your stereo MP3 player directly to the 20S EVO by using the enclosed
2.5mm to 3.5mm stereo audio cable. To adjust the volume, rotate the Jog
Dial on the headset. You may adjust the volume on the MP3 player also.

My problem I don't have a smartphone just an old dumb flip phone. :biggrin:
 
Joe - That's what I'm thinking if I go the 'cord' route - is to use 'adapters' so I am not constantly plugging/unplugging in the original jacks.
I've found over the years that the 2.5/3.5 jacks tend to 'loosen' up with use and you suddenly go from stereo to mono without easy fix for it.
 
You are not going to like the battery life of the Sena or Cardo. That's the thing I hate most about my Cardo, about 8 hours and it's done. Make sure you have a USB port or battery brick and cord to plug in when that happens. I never had to worry about that with my old Autocom but I guess that's the price of being "tech forward."
 
You are not going to like the battery life of the Sena or Cardo. That's the thing I hate most about my Cardo, about 8 hours and it's done. Make sure you have a USB port or battery brick and cord to plug in when that happens. I never had to worry about that with my old Autocom but I guess that's the price of being "tech forward."
My 20s units have always been good for 13 hours. I always have a 2nd one charged up for longer days but if I charge the one I'm using while having lunch that's usually enough to get me past a long day.
 
My 20s units have always been good for 13 hours. I always have a 2nd one charged up for longer days but if I charge the one I'm using while having lunch that's usually enough to get me past a long day.
So far the SENA20 S EVO battery life (without connecting to another SENA) has been really good and similar to Joe's experience.
The 'dongle' on the other hand was only about 8-10 hours.
The sound quality is excellent even through the BT dongle.
I'm thinking about the 'wired' SENA approach since no Bluetooth would be involved.
Then I would only have to deal with the SENA battery life and as Joe said, carry a charged spare (I have USB ports on all of my ST1100s) if I need it.
I have my MP3, Radar detector and GPS all 'merged' into the Amplirider which also amplifies and improves the sound.
So if I went wired, it's just connecting to the bike instead of having to move dongles, etc.
I'm already used to wired headsets so it would be no difference for me (other than the cords indeed would be a lot cheaper! :biggrin: )
It would still allow me to remove a lot of wiring (many feet of NGP antenna cable), CB brain, controls, antenna, etc. and still use my Amplirider.
Just noodling through all of this before I start making any serious changes since I am looking at 4 ST1100s.
On my Highway 6 trip, I don't want to be fussing with 'tecnology' and trying to sort it out on the road - BTDTGTS!
 
Have you considered just upgrading to a smartphone? If that solves some, or all, of the problems wouldn't that be simpler? I resisted the smartphone thing for as long as i could, but ive got to admit they are extremely handy.

RT
 
Have you considered just upgrading to a smartphone? If that solves some, or all, of the problems wouldn't that be simpler? I resisted the smartphone thing for as long as i could, but ive got to admit they are extremely handy.

RT
Just not part of the equation.
At this point it would be using a sledgehammer to kill a fly.
My current cell plan is $100 a year and I end up with leftover minutes every year. :biggrin:
And no I can't add a smart phone on my plan - already tried that. ;)
I don't like multi-function devices as when you lose one function, you have to replace them all.
And on the long trips I take, I usually have devices fail so I always carry spares.
 
Just not part of the equation.
At this point it would be using a sledgehammer to kill a fly.
My current cell plan is $100 a year and I end up with leftover minutes every year. :biggrin:
And no I can't add a smart phone on my plan - already tried that. ;)
I don't like multi-function devices as when you lose one function, you have to replace them all.
And on the long trips I take, I usually have devices fail so I always carry spares.

Oh, I get it. Verizon used to soak me for $70/mo for a flip phone, which I absolutely needed for business at the time. When I went to the smartphone I signed up with Boost, which is $30/mo with auto payment. The increase is utility, having contacts, email, calendar, music (mp3s and streaming), navigation, email, and being able do do things like book my club aircraft, check the weather, file a flight plan, etc. make it very easy to accept it's presence in my life. Being an android user means a Google account, and that backs up everything on the phone, tablet, computer, etc. Which also means when I get a new phone, like I just did, it backs the whole shebang up and loads it pretty much automatically. Break or loose a phone on the road? Buy one at BestBuy, etc. and an hour later your up and running again. I've had to do that. And I'm a basic, cheap smartphone user, I buy them outright, basic and go with the 2nd tier prepaid services. Never had a problem either. I know plenty that spend absurd money on the hardware and the service. But it doesn't have to be that way...

RT
 
Oh, I get it. Verizon used to soak me for $70/mo for a flip phone, which I absolutely needed for business at the time. When I went to the smartphone I signed up with Boost, which is $30/mo with auto payment.
But $30 a month is $360 a year vs my $100 a year and I could not care less about the 'utility'. For me $360 a year seems like 'absurd money' just for me to make an occasional phone call. ;) And the weather and traffic is what it is and I just deal with it. I just use a phone for making calls - that's it. I am a technology guy by trade (almost 50 years at it) and when I am on the road I do not want to be 'connected'. That can wait until I am in the motel room where I break out my old laptop (fully paid for) and use the free motel wi-fi. My wife and I have this understanding - we don't call unless there is a problem. When she goes RVing, I don't expect her to call me unless she's in a fix she can't get out of. When I go on a ride, she does not expect me to call her unless I'm in a fix I can't get out of. Been working fine that way for over 45 years. :biggrin: And I have learned with technology that purpose built equipment usually does a much better job at what it is designed to do that multi-function pieces of gear trying to do the same function. However, YEMV.
 
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