Up to 2007 the front and back were the same number pad, 2008 and one of them changed.
Rear brake pads
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The 06455 MCS R01 and the R02 versions both fit the ST1300 fronts from 2008 onwards. R01 was superceded by the R02. Sometimes the version number in the code represents a slightly different design tweak, or it may be a different supplier. Who knows ? I couldn't spot the difference when the number changed.
This is true but only for EBC pads. And pre 2008, the backing plate for OEM front and rear is the same physical size, but they are a different design.
OEM Rear pads have a 'square' notch cut out of the tab end of the backing plate. Front pads do not have this notch. Rear pads have considerably more friction material than the front and are provided with a heat shield to help prevent the transfer of heat from the pads to the caliper.
It is important to recognise this difference because if you fit front OEM pads on to the rear caliper, the brakes will not release properly due to the ridge on the chrome retaining clip on the rear caliper.
EBC pads use the same part for front and rear brakes for pre-2008 models, with the notch. So there is much less friction material than OEM rear pads. Rear pads wear faster than front pads due to the road grime being kicked up onto the rear wheel - a big concern if riding frequentl in wet roads. They may be at risk of wearing out before the next scheduled service.
I've never come across GTFO pads. I think that I'd just ignore them as being inappropriate.
This is true but only for EBC pads. And pre 2008, the backing plate for OEM front and rear is the same physical size, but they are a different design.
OEM Rear pads have a 'square' notch cut out of the tab end of the backing plate. Front pads do not have this notch. Rear pads have considerably more friction material than the front and are provided with a heat shield to help prevent the transfer of heat from the pads to the caliper.
It is important to recognise this difference because if you fit front OEM pads on to the rear caliper, the brakes will not release properly due to the ridge on the chrome retaining clip on the rear caliper.
EBC pads use the same part for front and rear brakes for pre-2008 models, with the notch. So there is much less friction material than OEM rear pads. Rear pads wear faster than front pads due to the road grime being kicked up onto the rear wheel - a big concern if riding frequentl in wet roads. They may be at risk of wearing out before the next scheduled service.
I've never come across GTFO pads. I think that I'd just ignore them as being inappropriate.
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Honda OEM Every time, no issues!
Appreciate that the 2008- has slightly different front calipers, but will the -R02 pads fit earlier front calipers?
Also, has anyone used the Dunlopad DP124 (Front) / DP125 (Rear) pads? I read somewhere they are pretty good (David Silver now stocks the DP124 as aftermarket pads) but not sure whether worth a try? I've always used OEM in the past but Honda prices are getting crazy, more than doubled in recent years.
Also, has anyone used the Dunlopad DP124 (Front) / DP125 (Rear) pads? I read somewhere they are pretty good (David Silver now stocks the DP124 as aftermarket pads) but not sure whether worth a try? I've always used OEM in the past but Honda prices are getting crazy, more than doubled in recent years.
Short answer, NO.
The early model years are about a quarter of an inch shorter in length.
Honda decided to cut tooling cost and made the 08 and up cast units and they made them larger and longer.
I have not heard of Dunlopad products on this side of the pond.
The early model years are about a quarter of an inch shorter in length.
Honda decided to cut tooling cost and made the 08 and up cast units and they made them larger and longer.
I have not heard of Dunlopad products on this side of the pond.
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No.
That is the short answer.
The long answer is that you might just as well put an iron bar through your spokes in order to stop.
Let me explain:
They are either too big or too small. I cannot recall which. But a similar answer applies if you try to fit G01/G02 pads into later calipers.
If they are too big, then they will not squeeze into place - you can try, but you will bend something - probably the pad pin, which will stop your brake pads from moving back and relasing the brakes after they have been applied.
This will make the brakes behave in a similar fashion to an iron bar poked through the spokes.
If the pads are too small - then the pad pin will keep them in place, but every time you apply the brakes the pads are pressed by the pistons against a disc which is rotating very very rapidly. Instead of being pressed against a securely held brake pad, there is now a gap between the pad and the recess in the caliper bracket (because the pad backing plate is too small). So the first thing that happens is that the pads shoot forward and hammer themselves against the caliper bracket.
The only thing that is holding the brake pads back is the pad pin. A soft metal. Guess which part is going to bend when you strike it in the middle at 60mph with a half ton hammer ?
And that will be rather like pushing an iron bar through the spokes, because the pads will no longer be able to release.
The pistons are also pressing hard against the pad backing plate and that has just shot forward at about half the speed of the motorcycle - with almost half a ton of weight behind it. So the pistons will have had a considerable sideways force applied to them - and will almost certainly become 'cocked' in the bore - unable to move in or out.
Which would be rather like sticking an iron bar through the spokes.
Pads have to be the correct size for the bracket into which they fit. Exactly.
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