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mcarver351 said:
The motorcycles that are up for sale are warehoused in their pre-sale condition. They are usually shipped dry and covered in cosmaline to keep them from rusting while being transported oversea and sitting in a crate.
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I cannot believe that anyone ships an assembled motor vehicle (or any complex piece of machinery) covered with cosmoline today. Any grease of any type would be very difficult to remove from all the nooks and crannies of formed/cast metal or the entire assembled machine. Perhaps a light oil that is designed to burn off but nothing heavier. There are other easier to deal with corrosion preventative measures available, such as vapor corrosion inhibitive paper and vacuum bagging.

If you really think cosmoline is still used, talk to any veteran GI who had to clean his cosmo protected M1 in WWII.
 
SMSW said:
I cannot believe that anyone ships an assembled motor vehicle (or any complex piece of machinery) covered with cosmoline today. Any grease of any type would be very difficult to remove from all the nooks and crannies of formed/cast metal or the entire assembled machine. Perhaps a light oil that is designed to burn off but nothing heavier. There are other easier to deal with corrosion preventative measures available, such as vapor corrosion inhibitive paper and vacuum bagging.

If you really think cosmoline is still used, talk to any veteran GI who had to clean his cosmo protected M1 in WWII.
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Maybe you should tell this company and the many others that still sell cosmoline. Just because the make up has changed, doesn't mean it is still not used. Brake cleaner removes it very easily. How many new ST1300PA have you uncrated?

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mcarver351 said:
Maybe you should tell this company and the many others that still sell cosmoline. Just because the make up has changed, doesn't mean it is still not used. Brake cleaner removes it very easily. How many new ST1300PA have you uncrated?

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I never saw a P in the box but I've seen many Honda motorcycles in and coming out of their shipping container. They don't use a greasy anything.
 
mcarver351 said:
Maybe you should tell this company and the many others that still sell cosmoline. Just because the make up has changed, doesn't mean it is still not used. Brake cleaner removes it very easily. How many new ST1300PA have you uncrated?

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Zero, to answer your question. How many have you uncrated?

Common sense tells me that hosing down an ST1300 with brake cleaner will create more problems than it solves. And coating any relatively simple part with grease is not the point I am trying to make. Besides, just because a company sells the stuff successfully does not mean it is useful for every application.
 
I've never uncrated a new ST, but I watched mine get uncrated and assembled at the dealer. There was no Cosmoline on the bike. After an around the block test ride, the tech just went back over it with some Pro-Honda cleaner polish to remove fingerprints and dust before he rolled it out to me.
 
As a kid (which was a very long time ago in a city not far far away) every so often I'd hear somebody talking about a bunch of WWII H-Ds "found in a warehouse in the crates still covered in Cosmoline" and that they could be had for a mere $50 (semi-big money back then). I never knew if this was some fraud being perpetrated or just a bunch of OFs spinnin' yards about something they knew nothing about. Ah the good ol' days.

Another thing I oft heard as a kid when the "grownups" talked about a new purchase— "Ya shoudda talked to me! I know where you can get it wholesale!" But they never did. :rofl1:
 
Jeff Markham said:
Anybody know what the “H” means in ST1300PAH?
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"Haggle and she's yours!"

Re the crates... having first hand knowledge of logistics (shipping everything from combine harvesters, high end lucky cars, right through to tins of beans)... strapping things down to a boat is problematic, and you don't want tins of beans bouncing around in an aircraft in turbulence. Insurance companies don't like it.

So yes, 99% of vehicles get stripped, drained, wrapped in bubblewrap/packing foam beans, and stuck in boxes. Boxes are easier to stack than motorcycles. Combine harvesters just need a bigger box.

Brake cleaner (for example) might easily remove certain compounds that could be used in transport... but dealerships don't like it getting into drains and the environment agency calling them. Equally, things like cosmaline weigh more than polystyrene, and regardless of your chosen method of transport... weight = cost.

Re the PA's... I was very tempted to get an ex-PA... but was put off by the (probably) trashed electrics. If Honda would like to ship one to the UK, and put a price sticker on it of £7200 / $10000 US.... I will happily snap their arms off as I collect it, since they haven't seen active duty.
 
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Those all need some kind of striping on them. Specially the white one, need something to break up all that white. (Check out the stripes I’ve got on mine on my avatar.) Gorgeous other than that. I love that smugglers trunk on there. Looks like it’s a lot bigger than the non-police version.
 
From what I can tell, the 2017 ST1300PAH alternator is air cooled (does that even make a difference?) and has an output of 660 watts. The "civilian" model apparently has an output of 740 watts (at 5,000 RPMs).

Question: wouldn't the PAH have a higher output given that it needs to power the emergency lights, etc in addition to everything else? Or am I missing something?
 
From what I could tell there was a rating change in 2007. Nothing mechanically changed, but they dropped the rating from a 60amp to 55amp (or something like that).

I can tell you now, there is only one offered. The 2012 ST1300 used a 31100-MCS-003, which has since been superseded by 31100-MCS-013 - which is supposedly what is on my 2016 model:1618625189732.png

What they are actually rated for, I have no idea. So... this has been your worthless knowledge for the day! :p
-Ryan
 
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