New Canonball record (motorcycles) on FJR (2800 miles in 32 hrs)

etalors said:
Replying to post # 11. "The devil in this trip is the catheter and associated plumbing"

Good point. Its like taking steroids in sports. That is not indicative of natural or normal performance. IBA should reconsider their standards and make them so folks are not forced to overspeed, take stimulants, .....

e.g. BBG 1500 time should be relaxed to 28 hours. 1500 miles in 28 hours on 2 wheels is still a great achievement.
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This is nothing like taking steroids in sports. Somehow I managed two of these in May this year, neither included stimulants or overspeeding (curious where speeding turns to overspeeding), I am sure everyone has an opinion or where that line is, an actual number or a math problem from the posted speed limit. If it was easy what would be the point?

Going for 50 CCG in about 10 days. Again no stimulants (well, I smoke and drink coffee) or overspeeding. If the IBA changed it to 56 hours... why would I try?
 
Willsmotorcycle said:
This is nothing like taking steroids in sports
(curious where speeding turns to overspeeding)?
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I used the steroids as an example, to illustrate a deviation from the normal. People normally don't ride bikes with a catheter. They also don't eat or drink while riding.
It turns to over speeding when you go above the posted speed limit. How much you go over the limit determines the degree of the risk and offence, in the discretion of the law. Generally you wont get pulled over for doing 5 above. But 10 above will get you pulled over in a lot of places. It is over speeding in both cases.

Question to you. If you are doing 80 in a 70 zone and you see a police cruiser. Will you maintain that speed or slow down to the posted limit?
 
etalors said:
I used the steroids as an example, to illustrate a deviation from the normal. People normally don't ride bikes with a catheter. They also don't eat or drink while riding.
It turns to over speeding when you go above the posted speed limit. How much you go over the limit determines the degree of the risk and offence, in the discretion of the law. Generally you wont get pulled over for doing 5 above. But 10 above will get you pulled over in a lot of places. It is over speeding in both cases.

Question to you. If you are doing 80 in a 70 zone and you see a police cruiser. Will you maintain that speed or slow down to the posted limit?
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It depends on traffic, no traffic around I roll off the throttle no matter what, because I was probably "speeding". My speedometer is not something I usually look at unless I am down below 35. Around town, residential neighborhoods, I probably don't even reach the posted limit, anywhere else, you get the idea. I personally think people should drive responsibly, If you, or anyone is uncomfortable going faster than a number on a sign, you shouldn't. That doesn't mean everyone should, what's good, 3 over, 5 over, 10 over?
My father is more like 10 under, that is where he is comfortable.

There was a study done by an outfit in Michigan, they raised and lowered speed limits to see how drivers reacted. Turned out they drove the same, even on roads where they raised the limits. They concluded it had to do with people (most) drive at what is safe for the conditions. I was on a back country road last week, speed limit was 55, no way I could stay that fast, the Blue Ridge Parkway is a 60 MPH road, but its posted 45...

(just because this is text... If you were sitting next to me, we would be laughing having this discussion):)
 
Willsmotorcycle said:
There was a study done by an outfit in Michigan, they raised and lowered speed limits to see how drivers reacted. Turned out they drove the same, even on roads where they raised the limits. They concluded it had to do with people (most) drive at what is safe for the conditions. I was on a back country road last week, speed limit was 55, no way I could stay that fast, the Blue Ridge Parkway is a 60 MPH road, but its posted 45...

(just because this is text... If you were sitting next to me, we would be laughing having this discussion):)
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Darn, I thought I had a chance to make it in the top 3 for 2021 mileage and there you go planning a 3000 mile ride and then I suppose you will have to ride home.....

To the point of "safe speed for conditions" when I did my BBG1500/50CC and entered that stretch of 1-10 in TX that is posted at 80 I thought folks would be doing 90+ given the prevailing speed on I-10 being the posted 70 mph plus 10 or 15 but people weren't really driving any faster than what they were doing with a PSL of 70. They were still doing 80ish.
 
dduelin said:
To the point of "safe speed for conditions" when I did my BBG1500/50CC and entered that stretch of 1-10 in TX that is posted at 80 I thought folks would be doing 90+ given the prevailing speed on I-10 being the posted 70 mph plus 10 or 15 but people weren't really driving any faster than what they were doing with a PSL of 70. They were still doing 80ish.
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Noticed that too .I suspect they are less forgiving at the upper limits.
 
I respect his tenacity, but this is not any kind of an ode to sport touring.

There’s an essential element of enjoying the scenery and stopping along the way to really visit places that is missing form this.

This is LD/endurance riding, not sport touring.
 
etalors said:
What is your route going to be.
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Are you LEO ? ;) I'm not cannonballing. I have a stock gas setup and no restrooms on board. Right out I80 after leaving PA. Belmar NJ to Golden Gate Bridge, was thinking Times Square but it adds traffic complexity trying to land at sunrise at the GGB. As I type this I checked a reroute, maybe I do that. HMMMM
 
Ive been pondering if I should comment on this thread or not. On one hand I admire the guys grit and determination. Riding for 32 hours straight is some serious saddle time. On the other hand I dont understand the obvious blatant disrespect for the basic tenants of highway safety ( sorry, just the way I was brought up). Laws are implemented for the good of society. Yes 3, 5 or 10 over is speeding, but often consistent with traffic flow. Once you get 20 or 30 mph over, or more, its blatantly dangerous to yourself and to others. Rocketing along at 120 mph even in an 80 zone is criminal. Like the squids in the You- tube vids we like to make fun of and criticize. Just because you can do something and get away with it, doesnt mean you should, and for what? A piece of paper? A plaque? A license plate frame? A mention on an internet forum?

To me, I would be more impressed if he made the same long distance ride at the speed limit, even if it took longer.
 
Pretty sure if he really stuck to the speed limit he would have been crushed by a semi or killed by an angry motorist on day 1
 
Willsmotorcycle said:
...... (curious where speeding turns to overspeeding), I am sure everyone has an opinion or where that line is, an actual number or a math problem from the posted speed limit.
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Not a matter of opinion in many jurisdictions. What is considered excessive speeding has already been clearly defined.

In your state of Pennsylvania, it is considered excessive speeding at 31 MPH over the posted speed limit, and will get you the penalties that go with that moniker.
Here in Québec, it kicks in at 60 Km/H, 37 MPH over the posted speed limit.
In Ontario, it is 50 Km/H, 31 MPH over the posted speed limit.

I suspect that many other jurisdictions have similar laws, and that most others who do not will soon have in the not-to-distant future.
 
Under current law in my state (Ohio), if you are driving 30 MPH or more over the speed limit, you will be assessed four points, and you may also get your license suspended. If you are going more than 10 MPH over the speed limit in a 55 MPH or higher zone, or more than five MPH in any other speed zone, you will be assessed two points. 15-20 over in Ohio is considered excessive speeding and reckless operation.
 
the Ferret said:
Under current law in my state (Ohio), if you are driving 30 MPH or more over the speed limit, you will be assessed four points, and you may also get your license suspended. If you are going more than 10 MPH over the speed limit in a 55 MPH or higher zone, or more than five MPH in any other speed zone, you will be assessed two points. 15-20 over in Ohio is considered excessive speeding and reckless operation.
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25 over and they want bail. I discovered that 50+ years ago when I was younger, stupid, and, of course, invulnerable. On the other hand, I learned a valuable lesson for no more than a few bucks (well, a lot of them, back then to a broke kid).
 
GryST said:
But seriously, I see no point in doing it on a bike. What does it proves, and to whom? Endurance? I think we all know our limits without proving them.
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Maybe you don't, but some of us really like doing LD on a bike. We don't do it to prove to anyone but ourselves and fellow LD riders (and certainly not keyboard warriors)... we like the challenge. If you don't like it, don't judge others who do. You do you, I'll do me. Lots of posters here riding on high horses and living in glass houses...
 
I sure can tell riding season is coming to a close ... :think1: :biggrin:
At the end of the day, we 'challenge' ourselves in various areas of life and we enjoy it when we meet the challenge.
That's why some folks jump out of a perfectly working airplane - now that's crazy to me! ;)
I understand the reason - to see if it can be done.
That's why I ran all the major Sierra Passes in one day and did my IBA saddlesore mainly on the Natchez Trace.
It was not the distance but the patrolled speed limits that made it such a challenge.
I think a major LD 'challenge' would be to ride the entire Blue Ridge Parkway, hop on I40 (which sort of connects the two), and then ride the entire Natchez Trace in one run. I've run it through my mind may times and I don't know if it could be done - not the distance but in the time frame for a IBA ride (probably a 1500 Gold).
I figure whatever floats a feller's boat - so let his boat be floated!
 
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