Is the Iron Butt Rally now relegated to riding history?

Totally agree Bob. Not only would you need the modifications but you would also have to have a plan to ensure that they were followed, a record showing that you carried out the plan and then you're still vulnerable to a judge/jury that believes you should have met the standard of perfection in your compliance with the plan.
 
Larry Fine said:
Just curious: What is such an organization responsible and/or liable for that insurance is needed to cover?
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Many years ago, a lawyer friend of mine mentioned that Sohio Gas Stations (became BP Gas Stations) were the most sued entity in Ohio. He explained that in the event of an accident, the injured person's lawyer will name every possible person/company in the lawsuit. He cannot add names once the paperwork is filed, and if someone is left out who actually was liable for the accident, they are pretty much off the hook. Back then, there were more Sohio stations around, and there was almost always one within line of sight of an accident, so many were named in the suits. Of course, Sohio had little to no liability, but they had to have their legal dept. file paperwork and defend the company. Such is our legal system.
 
The reality is anyone can sue anyone else for any reason.
Corporations still have to 'legal up' even if they know it is a frivolous lawsuit.
In small claims court in Tennessee an individual can file 'suit' and represent themselves but a corporation must have a lawyer to represent them.
 
Then again, winning a judgement in civil court is only half the battle, or less.

Then you have to actually collect the award, and the courts have little to do with any of that once a judgement is rendered.

Family court is a different kettle of fish, from what little I understand. I strive to avoid courts whenever possible, and with the exception of some perceived traffic infractions, I have been mostly successful.
 
I am interested in doing an Iron Butt saddlesore 1000 ride.
I never considered doing it as part of a group ride or IBA rally...
.... but I'm not opposed to the idea!

Especially now that I have recently acquired a 2007 ST-1300 to replace a much older '96 Honda Shadow.

My comfortable highway cruising speed should go up by 20 mph, Traffic conditions permitting, and I will double my range between gas stops.
 
gunsmoker said:
I am interested in doing an Iron Butt saddlesore 1000 ride.
I never considered doing it as part of a group ride or IBA rally...
.... but I'm not opposed to the idea!
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If your first one, you will definitely want to read the IBA 25 Long-Distance Riding Tips, found here:

https://ironbutt.org/25tips.html
 
oude geit said:
I've never done an Ibr event, never plan to since I might get foolish and I'm not a scavenger type guy anyway. Had some girls when I was16..17 try to get me into "scavenger hunts" if I wouldn't do it with them I surely ain't doing it for status, or anyone else. I will miss watching foolish people trying to get homer or tuk and back in a few days, those who won't go home, those living on roller dogs, and enjoying the shear daring of it all.......hope it's just a bump in the road.
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I didn't view my run up to Alaska in 2019 as foolish as much as I did just being lazy, LOL. I looked at it as a way to a solid finish without dealing with ferry rides, combo bonuses, time restricted bonuses and dealing with a 2nd checkpoint (got to skip that if you bagged a bonus North of the 50th parallel). If it weren't for a mishap in a construction zone forcing me to drop a high point bonus at Kennecott Mines and a wrong picture at the Salmon Glacier (Doh) I would have snuck in a podium spot. It just sounded like an Epic adventure and it was. Sit and twist for 7 days and only have to get 5 bonuses before blasting back to SC.
Future IBR's will require entirely different strategies with more stringent speed and rest requirements, sit down meals etc. Some will like it and others not so much, but it is what it is for the rally to continue.
 
Wonder how much of the changes (mandatory rest breaks, as but one example) have been in attempt to mollify insurance carriers?

My understanding is, the last non-rally was largely due to liability and indemnity and other such insurance things.
 
Here we go . . .
Reposted with IBA permission.
Shuey

Long-distance motorcycle riding is as old as the motorcycle itself. Ever
since mankind first strapped an internal combustion engine to a bicycle
frame, the thrill of the open road has captured the imagination of those
seeking adventure and challenge. George Wyman, who completed the first
transcontinental motorcycle journey in 1903, and Bessie Stringfield, who
fearlessly traversed the country alone during an era of significant social
adversity, are two pioneers whose feats carved the path for a sport and
lifestyle that has fascinated motorcycle enthusiasts for over a century.

Their legacy is embedded in the spirit of countless riders who chase the
horizon in search of records, personal achievements, and stories to be
told. This tradition of exploration and discovery is embodied in events
like the Iron Butt Rally - the ultimate test for the world's most tenacious
riders. Known as “The World’s Toughest Motorcycle Rally,” the Iron Butt
Rally participants navigate thousands of miles in just 11 days, blending
skill, stamina, and strategy to reach checkpoints scattered across the
continent. For those who dare to attempt it, the rally isn’t just a ride -
it’s a pilgrimage.

In 1984, the Iron Butt Rally came into existence and over the years became
the pinnacle of long-distance riding challenges. For over 40 years, the IBR
has been the ultimate goal of thousands of riders, yet only a fraction of
those have competed and finished. The Iron Butt Rally has brought together
many people, creating lifelong friendships, and even in some cases, saving
lives. The challenge and prestige of becoming an IBR finisher brings
purpose and enrichment to people's lives.

After conversations with Michael Kneebone, we have agreed that I will be
the Rallymaster for the 2025 Iron Butt Rally to be held June 16 - 27, 2025.

The event will begin and end in Coralville, Iowa with checkpoints TBD at
this time. If you would like to test your mettle against the best riders
in the world, please complete this application
<https://airtable.com/appv32FLTwUO7LQsv/shrpB9hBeDIdewrn1> before December
23, 2024.

Registration is only open to IBA Premier Members until December
10, 2025. Then non-Premier Members are eligible to register. If you are
not a Premier Member, and you submit your application prior to December 10,
2024, you will be asked to resubmit at the correct time. Riders will be
notified around December 30, 2024. As in the past, a lottery draw method
will be used to choose riders, with IBR veterans and Premier Members having
priority status.

The rally fee for a single rider is $2450 and an additional $450 for a
pillion. Due to the tight timeline, the first payment ($1500) will be due
by January 14, 2025, followed by the remaining balance by April 3, 2025.
The payment window will not be available until January 1st. There will be
some standard requirements as well as new ones. A rider’s personal
insurance requirements will include a $500k/$500k/$100k or $500k CSL
policy. Satellite tracker devices compatible with Spotwalla will be
required. MedJet or an acceptable equivalent will be mandatory. Helmets
will always be required, along with specific gear requirements. Fuel
capacity will remain capped at 11.5 gallons or less. Scoring will be
conducted using the new Iron Butt Rally scoring app, pioneered by LDX.

More information will be provided soon. You can expect some changes to the
Iron Butt Rally rules but you can find them here
<https://f60a2259-861b-49d1-b614-742...d/f60a22_d0194316e2ef4bf5809fdb0919c682d2.pdf>
for an overall view of the rally requirements. You can email us with questions
at any time at ironbutthq@gmail.com.


Regards,

Paul Tong
 
OH! Happy Day!

Even as a non-riding-participant, I do so enjoy reading the tests, tricks and travails of those who do. Including, or maybe especially those of the Rally Bastards or Rally Mistress. Pretty much recognized that I don't wanna work that hard, for that long, at this point in my life. I will still do a SS1K or BBG, but not back-to-back-to-back like these happy warriors do. (Well, at least some of them are happy, if even for a very short while.)

Thanks for the update, @Shuey . I hope John Harrison is the Rally Scribe again, because I've also resigned myself to not seeing Higdon and his 3-veiner hilarious diatribes on a daily basis.
 
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