I Made a Decision - First ST1100

Well, I finally said "enough" to my looming paralysis by analysis and opted for a new strategy. One I'm calling "Screw It, and Do It".

I finished up work earlier than expected on Wednesday and on a whim decided to reach out to the ST1100 owner who was about an hour southwest of me. He had been out of town and unable to show the bike, but I knew that once he was back and the weekend hit, it was going to go fast. I had read everything I could find online and watched every video review on Youtube (or at least, so it felt). It was time to go see it in person. By this point I had decided two important things: 1.) I actually preferred the aesthetics of the older ST11 to the newer ST13. Go figure... And, 2.) I could work on the ST11 indefinitely with my mechanical aptitude and it's simpler systems. But I was still a bit skeptical of the older bike. After all, I had a lead on an '08 ST13 that was $300 CHEAPER and only had 50k miles on the clock. But, as so many of you pointed out, a bike has to speak to you, regardless of what all the tests, specs, and reviews show...

So, as I said, on a whim, I contacted the seller and asked if he was available to meet right now. As in, "Hi, are you home? I'm taking a chance and already driving that direction and will be there in about an hour..." He was available, and he was home, and so, I swung on by and checked out the bike. Let me just say, it is immaculate. 14,600 miles on the clock. He bought it from the original owner in 2011. The seller turned out to be an ST11 nut himself. You see, he used to be a V-twin rider (think Harley) who never would give the Honda bikes a second glance. That is, until he rode one for a few hours on a trip with his son to Yellowstone. As soon as he got home, he bought one for himself. Then he made it his mission to find the best one he could. And so, he started with a 1993, then a 1997, and finally, this 2001 that he acquired in 2011 with 5,000 miles on it. He only added 10k in the last 10 years. A few trips here and there and riding around town. He's currently restoring a 1967 Ford Mustang and it was reassuring to know that a true gearhead had owned this bike and had lovingly cared for it while it was in his possession. We had a good time talking, discussing cars and motorcycles and the inherant enjoyment involved in being able to take care of your own stuff. Needless to say, he was quickly winning me over to the ST11... In the end, a call to my wife was all it took to push me over the edge. She's tired of me endlessly researching these bikes and just wanted me to be happy with whatever I got, so she was quick to say "Well, if you like it, and it's in good condition, and you can work on it, you should probably stop over thinking this and just get it already." Enough said. The seller and I drove to the credit union and did the paperwork.

I rode it home today and I'm in love. It's everything I hoped it would be and I can't imagine I need any "more" bike for my return to riding after a 5 year hiatus. Here she is...

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The bike has a saddleman seat, Heli-Bars, a CB system that is a bit archaic, a GIVI top box, PIAA driving lights, Motorcycle Larry highway blades, and is wired for heated clothing. He also threw in a new set of Michelin tires that he'd purchased last season but hadn't gotten around to installing yet. I was really pleased with the deal and he was a great guy to work with all around. He would've kept it but he just can't ride anymore.

So, nothing left to do but head home. And so I did. I stopped half way and one of the lakes I take my kids fishing on. There's a nice scenic overlook that I've never stopped at because I always just go to the boat ramp that's 10 seconds further down the road. Today I pulled in. It also amazed me how many things I saw on that particular stretch of road from the vantage point of the bike that I hadn't noticed before, even though I've driven it dozens of times in my truck on the way to go fishing. Just a great reminder of why seeing the world from the saddle of a motorcycle really is the best way to do it.

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Now I just need to figure out a windscreen solution, as with my height and my choice of helmet, my head got tossed about so badly I had a headache by the time I got home (about an 80 mile trip). The stock screen is just perfectly tall enough to hit my head with all the turbulence you could ever want. I honestly think I'd be better off just removing it than leaving it where it is... And then, secondly, I have questions about radar detectors. Seriously. I'm no speed demon. I haven't had a moving violation since I was in college almost 20 years ago. BUT this bike just wants to go about 20mph over the limit, minimum. So any suggestions on either of those would be much appreciated.

Thank you all again for your phenomenal input and free offer of information on my other thread. I truly appreciate it. Even though I recognize the consensus seemed to say "buy the ST13". But man, I just really was drawn to the ST11. And I'm perfectly happy with my decision (Which is saying a lot for someone who tends to grossly overthink things like me).

I really look forward to becoming a part of this community and to meeting some of you in the near future!
Screw it and do it? That s how i left for my first long tour! Now you get to fake it until you make it!
 
Well, I finally said "enough" to my looming paralysis by analysis and opted for a new strategy. One I'm calling "Screw It, and Do It".

I finished up work earlier than expected on Wednesday and on a whim decided to reach out to the ST1100 owner who was about an hour southwest of me. He had been out of town and unable to show the bike, but I knew that once he was back and the weekend hit, it was going to go fast. I had read everything I could find online and watched every video review on Youtube (or at least, so it felt). It was time to go see it in person. By this point I had decided two important things: 1.) I actually preferred the aesthetics of the older ST11 to the newer ST13. Go figure... And, 2.) I could work on the ST11 indefinitely with my mechanical aptitude and it's simpler systems. But I was still a bit skeptical of the older bike. After all, I had a lead on an '08 ST13 that was $300 CHEAPER and only had 50k miles on the clock. But, as so many of you pointed out, a bike has to speak to you, regardless of what all the tests, specs, and reviews show...

So, as I said, on a whim, I contacted the seller and asked if he was available to meet right now. As in, "Hi, are you home? I'm taking a chance and already driving that direction and will be there in about an hour..." He was available, and he was home, and so, I swung on by and checked out the bike. Let me just say, it is immaculate. 14,600 miles on the clock. He bought it from the original owner in 2011. The seller turned out to be an ST11 nut himself. You see, he used to be a V-twin rider (think Harley) who never would give the Honda bikes a second glance. That is, until he rode one for a few hours on a trip with his son to Yellowstone. As soon as he got home, he bought one for himself. Then he made it his mission to find the best one he could. And so, he started with a 1993, then a 1997, and finally, this 2001 that he acquired in 2011 with 5,000 miles on it. He only added 10k in the last 10 years. A few trips here and there and riding around town. He's currently restoring a 1967 Ford Mustang and it was reassuring to know that a true gearhead had owned this bike and had lovingly cared for it while it was in his possession. We had a good time talking, discussing cars and motorcycles and the inherant enjoyment involved in being able to take care of your own stuff. Needless to say, he was quickly winning me over to the ST11... In the end, a call to my wife was all it took to push me over the edge. She's tired of me endlessly researching these bikes and just wanted me to be happy with whatever I got, so she was quick to say "Well, if you like it, and it's in good condition, and you can work on it, you should probably stop over thinking this and just get it already." Enough said. The seller and I drove to the credit union and did the paperwork.

I rode it home today and I'm in love. It's everything I hoped it would be and I can't imagine I need any "more" bike for my return to riding after a 5 year hiatus. Here she is...

20210324_151212.jpg

20210324_151220.jpg
20210324_151227.jpg
20210324_151234.jpg
image.jpg


The bike has a saddleman seat, Heli-Bars, a CB system that is a bit archaic, a GIVI top box, PIAA driving lights, Motorcycle Larry highway blades, and is wired for heated clothing. He also threw in a new set of Michelin tires that he'd purchased last season but hadn't gotten around to installing yet. I was really pleased with the deal and he was a great guy to work with all around. He would've kept it but he just can't ride anymore.

So, nothing left to do but head home. And so I did. I stopped half way and one of the lakes I take my kids fishing on. There's a nice scenic overlook that I've never stopped at because I always just go to the boat ramp that's 10 seconds further down the road. Today I pulled in. It also amazed me how many things I saw on that particular stretch of road from the vantage point of the bike that I hadn't noticed before, even though I've driven it dozens of times in my truck on the way to go fishing. Just a great reminder of why seeing the world from the saddle of a motorcycle really is the best way to do it.

20210325_170307.jpg

Now I just need to figure out a windscreen solution, as with my height and my choice of helmet, my head got tossed about so badly I had a headache by the time I got home (about an 80 mile trip). The stock screen is just perfectly tall enough to hit my head with all the turbulence you could ever want. I honestly think I'd be better off just removing it than leaving it where it is... And then, secondly, I have questions about radar detectors. Seriously. I'm no speed demon. I haven't had a moving violation since I was in college almost 20 years ago. BUT this bike just wants to go about 20mph over the limit, minimum. So any suggestions on either of those would be much appreciated.

Thank you all again for your phenomenal input and free offer of information on my other thread. I truly appreciate it. Even though I recognize the consensus seemed to say "buy the ST13". But man, I just really was drawn to the ST11. And I'm perfectly happy with my decision (Which is saying a lot for someone who tends to grossly overthink things like me).

I really look forward to becoming a part of this community and to meeting some of you in the near future!
I went w the clearview shield. Im 5’7” and bought a large. Im still deciding if its too tall. Im a bluetooth guy and use boltune earbuds. Music and navi across the country is my thing! Regrettably, a bluetooth radar is big bucks and im waiting for one to show up used. Keep an eye out in the for sale section. Ive found some
Pretty
Good deals there
 
@Horsehead Don't want to hijack the thread, but @Upt' North , I can understand why you would ask that question. French built called the Zeus. No longer made. Basically a volkswagen engine, two wheel drive and hub centre steering (otherwise a car with three wheels :rofl1:). But is still met the legal definition of a sidecar outfit as the front wheel was not central. Despite my earlier comment, they were really cool in real life! Have a few photos from the French Amicale Sidecarrist de France rally in 2015. Different machines but gives a better overall view.
I saw one of those in Andermatt Switzerland when I was riding the Alps.
It's a pretty amazing machine to behold!
 
Congratulations! It makes me miss my ST 1100. I wish I could’ve kept it. You might want to try one of the touring windshield extensions from MRA. A neat trick I learned was putting the extension all the way up in the rain so that you can see between the top of the windshield and the bottom of the windshield extension. It worked well. I tried bolting it on and and ended up simply cracking the windshield. I got another windshield and just clamped it on.
 
Well, upon further review the tires o. The bike and the set he gave me are both from 2012. I must have confused him talking about something else as he was an honest guy and I don't think he was trying to deceive me about the age of the new set... Do I need new tires or are the ones that have been in storage sufficient?
 
Do I need new tires or are the ones that have been in storage sufficient?
Most references seem to consider five years as the maximum age for a tire before mounting it. Many here will tell you that they would not use them and most will not accept a new tire that is more than two years old. They may begin to deteriorate and crack prematurely due to age but they are not going to spontaneously explode at slower riding speeds and lower tire temperatures. If you are planning a trip or other type of riding where you will be doing sustained high speed riding, I would suggest that you not use them. The risk of failure increases with long term exposure to higher tire temperatures. If your comfort level will be diminished because of worrying over old tires, buy new ones and consider it as part of the purchase price of the bike. Increased confidence in your new bike is worth far more than a set of new tires, as is your life.

I had a 2001 ST1100. You will enjoy it immensely. You can't go wrong with it. I would still be riding mine if it had not been totaled. Check the safety stuff like tires, brakes, fluids, critical fasteners, etc., and then just go ride and enjoy to see what you want to change on it.

As for the windshield, @kiltman has recently installed an adjustable windshield extension on his ST1100. You can see it here- ST1100 adjustable windshield.
 
Consider yourself very lucky the seller still had that motorcycle still available when you decided to pull the trigger. She sure is pretty and looks like my 2000 ST1100. I'm probably the odd one here but I'm still with the stock shield and seat as it works fine for me. But as others have said other seats and windshields are available to fit the bike to you. I usually get 4 years out of my oem tires and a little over 15 K miles till they are due for replacement. Like others have said look for cracking and get a tire wear guage and check em. Off the top of my head I think Honda recommends 2mm replacement.
 
I have budgeted a $1000 above my purchase price to deal with numerous items such as tires, brakes or fluids for each of the STs I have purchased. It has taken me close to a year to dial things in on my latest ST. IT’s well worth it in my opinion.
I’m really looking forward to this riding season as I have the bike just a humming nicely. I’m mentioning this as an encouragement really, ‘ cause I know it will take a bit of time for you and your bike to get acquainted and your relationship will just grow.
Cheers
 
I have budgeted a $1000 above my purchase price to deal with numerous items such as tires, brakes or fluids for each of the STs I have purchased. It has taken me close to a year to dial things in on my latest ST. IT’s well worth it in my opinion.
I’m really looking forward to this riding season as I have the bike just a humming nicely. I’m mentioning this as an encouragement really, ‘ cause I know it will take a bit of time for you and your bike to get acquainted and your relationship will just grow.
Cheers
U r gonna have a ball! I was tentative at first, and i still make mistakes, but buy, am i having fun
 
Well, upon further review the tires o. The bike and the set he gave me are both from 2012. I must have confused him talking about something else as he was an honest guy and I don't think he was trying to deceive me about the age of the new set... Do I need new tires or are the ones that have been in storage sufficient?
I'd run them in a heartbeat and not worry about it - unless they are cracked or showing signs of distress.
 
So numerous folks here and on an ST facebook group have recommended changing all fluids for fresh. I've done a search but so far haven't found an article or thread laying out what is recommended. I'm used to just going to the parts store and getting generic brands for things and don't see why that wouldn't work for.this application. But then I know that for some things, OEM stuff really is necessary (for instance, our old Honda Odyssey required OEM Honda power steering fluid as the generic stuff would somehow react negativity with the seals).

What say ye? Figured I need to flush coolent, clutch, and brakes, and change the oil. Just looking for a concise guide to what all is needed / recommend. Thanks!
 
So numerous folks here and on an ST facebook group have recommended changing all fluids for fresh. I've done a search but so far haven't found an article or thread laying out what is recommended. I'm used to just going to the parts store and getting generic brands for things and don't see why that wouldn't work for.this application. But then I know that for some things, OEM stuff really is necessary (for instance, our old Honda Odyssey required OEM Honda power steering fluid as the generic stuff would somehow react negativity with the seals).

What say ye? Figured I need to flush coolent, clutch, and brakes, and change the oil. Just looking for a concise guide to what all is needed / recommend. Thanks!
The manual will tell you every two years to replace all the fluids. Except for the rear end fluid which is 4 year/24,000 miles this is off the top of my head. This is my maintenance schedule every 4 years for fluids and the rear end fluid. I like to use Honda products. And another thing is your coolant is very important to use non silicate coolant or just go to your nearest Honda car dealer a get a gallon of Honda type 2 antifreeze and you are good to go as many here use it. Did your bike come with an owners manual?
 
Coolant- Honda type 2 coolant from your local Honda automotive dealer- much cheaper than the Honda motorcycle coolant and it is the same stuff.
Brake and clutch- DOT 4 brake fluid of your choice from a sealed container.
Engine oil- Honda recommends 10W40 of your choice. JASO MA certified is recommended to protect the clutch from slippage due to the the friction modifiers in many automotive oils. Many people use automotive oils successfully however. If you are unfamiliar with the issues surrounding choosing an engine oil, I suggest that you just purchase motorcycle specific oil rated JASO MA for this time. After you have had a chance to look in to it, you can make your choice of engine oil for the next oil change.
Final drive- Honda recommended is Hypoid gear oil SAE 80. I recommend synthetic for this. Multi-grade SAE 75W90 or 80W90 are usually more readily available and are fine.
For the final drive splines- moly paste containing 60% molybdenum disulfide. Loctite Moly Pate LB8012, also under the number 51048, is used by many on this forum.

Paul put together a good guide for the ST1100. I suggest you have a read through of it.
ST1100 - Basics / Buying Guide
 
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Thanks Red One and Andrew.

No, I don't have the owners manual, but I do have the Service Manual.

I did read that Buying Guide post, but I didn't see the specs on what type of fluids to use. Maybe it's there and I just missed it.
 
Just for those who don't know, the "multi-viscosity" numbers really mean that the oil doesn't thin with heat at the same rate as a single-weight oil.

The first number with the W (winter) means the oil flows as would a single-weight oil of the same viscosity at 32F/0C, while the second number means the same thing at 212F/100C.

So, a 10W-40 flows like a straight 10-weight oil would at freezing, and as would a straight 40-weight oil at boiling.
 
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