For a general overview: Talk model type, without much hype.

[Upt' North]

Just found my 2000 sales brochure and the difference between a standard ST1100 and a ST1100 abs is a lot. You get ABS, linked brakes, Traction control, bigger front forks 43mm vs 41 for the standard and radial tires. That is a lot for only $1,000 more than the standard.

So what radial tyres were the original fitment back then. I'm guessing Bridgestones.
Upt'North.

 

[Upt' North]

That’s interesting, the standard came with bias tires stock? The ABSII with radials. I would be curious to know if that was the case for the 96 ABSII when they were first introduced.........

Our interest was tweaked at the same time Mr.Kiltman.
Upt'North.

 

[red one]

It all depends. According to my 2000 owners manual the tire fitments are ST1100 standard Bridgestone G547 front G548 rear. Dunlop D103F front tire. D103 rear. and Metzeler Me33 laser front tire. Me 55A metronic rear all bias ply. ABS 2 Models are radial tires Manufactuers of oem tires are Dunlop D202F front tire. D202 for the rear. And Bridgestone BT54F front tire. BT 54R for the rear. These tires sizes are all ZR rated radial tires.

 

[Upt' North]

It all depends. According to my 2000 owners manual the tire fitments are ST1100 standard Bridgestone G547 front G548 rear. Dunlop D103F front tire. D103 rear. and Metzeler Me33 laser front tire. Me 55A metronic rear all bias ply. ABS 2 Models are radial tires Manufactuers of oem tires are Dunlop D202F front tire. D202 for the rear. And Bridgestone BT54F front tire. BT 54R for the rear. These tires sizes are all ZR rated radial tires.

Thanks dude. So my memory was sort of right because I'm pretty sure my UK Police Pan's ran BT54's from around 98 on. Maybe before. Obviously some forces may have preferred the Dunlop.
It could of course have been an earlier B'Stone radial and not the 54.
Upt'North.

 

[kiltman]

I have my Clymers with me. Under tire specs near the front of the book it lists capacities of the various years and countries the bikes were issued. I draw your attention to the 1990-1992 international model that had a capacity of 1,140 lbs while all others are in the 400 lbs range.

 

[migresch]

I don't know about templates, but I did notice improvement at my end when I stopped using the Firefox browser.

Does anyone else find the printing to be too dark to read?

No problems here.

 

[Al st1100]

Dave Im trying to refresh my memory from 20 years ago. I seem to recall by the year 2000 those ST1100 were starting to get scarce. I called at least 5 Honda dealers and nobody had one. Said they could order it but did not know when I would get one. Finally lucked out and got one from a dealer that had ordered one in January. It was still in the crate. I bought that baby sight unseen. Besides marrying my wife best decision I ever made. Mine is a 2000 non abs. If I recalled a ABS traction control model retailed for only 1000 dollars more.

Sounds like you are saying you married your wife sight unseen!

 

[Larry Fine]

I have black text on white background. Easy to read.

 

[DaveWooster]

... The ST1100/A/P Line or Series or Family of motorcycles consists of the following three ST model types:
The Standard ST1100 model type,
The Police ST1100P model type, and
The ABS ST1100A model type.
That last statement provides a general overview of the 1100 Series of STs, but it discusses only the model-type dimension of STs. For example, the ABS ST1100A model type was extensively revised to form the ABS II models. Important year-to-year differences in STs, such as the ones in that example, suggest that we need to extend the above overview to include a second, important dimension, which is model year. (We should at least go on and discuss ST model years in the context of ST model types.) ....

Model type is an important dimension of the 1100 Series, and it applies worldwide. But model year is an important second dimension.
All three model types evolved over the fourteen year production span of the 1100 Series of STs.
One major change was the 1996 ABS ST1100A, relative to the 1995 ABS ST1100A.
Honda even gave the new ABS models the new name ABS II. (That caused owners of the earlier ABS models to start calling their STs ABS I.)
But it did not bring about a new ST model type. The ABS I models had ABS and TCS just like the ABS II ones. And neither had Police gear from the factory. The name ST1100A did not change for 1996.

In summary, the ABS ST1100A model type can be divided into two versions, based on model year. The 1992-1995, earlier version can be called ABS I ST1100A. The 1996-2002, later version is called ABS II ST1100A by Honda. If we shade them both red, then they are both red, but they are different shades of red, as in

ABS I and
ABS II.

 

[DaveWooster]

Just found my 2000 sales brochure, and the difference between a standard ST1100 and a ST1100 abs is a lot. You get ABS, linked brakes, Traction control, bigger front forks 43mm vs 41 for the standard, and radial tires. That is a lot for only $1,000 more than the standard.

I once looked at the 1996 prices, and the difference then (between an ABS II ST1100A model and a Standard ST1100) was, as I recall, $2,500 US dollars.

And I just looked up the year 2000 MSR Prices (MSRPs). The ABS II at $14,399 was again $2500 US more than the Standard ST1100, priced at $11,899.

 

[DaveWooster]

That’s interesting, the standard came with bias tires stock? The ABSII with radials? I would be curious to know if that was the case for the 96 ABSII when they were first introduced.........

I think it was the case (at the risk of repeating what someone else has already posted).

Radials for the ABS II models were one of the many revisions made to the ABS ST1100A model type for 1996, revisions made to produce the ABS II models.

I have my Clymers with me. Under tire specs near the front of the book it lists capacities of the various years and countries the bikes were issued. I draw your attention to the 1990-1992 international model that had a capacity of 1,140 lbs while all others are in the 400 lbs range.

I looked at the page you posted a photo of. I think that 1,140 lbs is the gross vehicle weight rating whereas the 400 lbs is that same gross weight rating minus the weight of the ST. (The Clymers has some typos in it.) By the way, if you flip past that page and go two pages further, there is a two page overview of the ST1100/A Line of motorcycles, including the ABS II models.

 

[DaveWooster]

... So my memory was sort of right because I'm pretty sure my UK Police Pan's ran BT54's from around 98 on. Maybe before. Obviously some forces may have preferred the Dunlop.
It could of course have been an earlier B'Stone radial and not the 54. - Upt'North.

All the models of the Police ST1100P model type would originally have worn bias tires because that is the OEM tire for all Standard ST1100s, I think. (Police models are non-ABS.)

So what radial tyres were the original fitment back then. I'm guessing Bridgestones. - Upt'North.

They were the original fitment for the '96 and later ABS II models only, I think.

 

[DaveWooster]

Looking at the ST model types gave us only a one dimensional overview of the entire ST1100/A/P Line of motorcycles.

We then used ST model years to divide the ABS model type into two groups, which we can call the Earlier ABS I and the Later ABS II sub-types.
That gave us a total of four major groups of STs, namely
the Earlier ABS I, the Later ABS II, the Standard ST1100, and the Police ST1100P.

But four groups are not enough to show how the entire ST1100/A/P Line evolved over its 14 years of production.

So I am attaching a two dimensional Overview which divides that ST1100/A/P Line by both model types and model years. It contains 29 groups of STs, instead of just the four listed above.
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Twenty-nine groups of STs is quite a handful. But is a World Overview.
It includes every single ST, and every ST Pan European that was ever made for the 1100 Series.

The first or left-hand column is for the ABS ST1100A model type; the middle column is for the Standard ST1100 type; and the right-hand, third column is for the Police ST1100P type.

Running up the page are the years 1990, 1991, 1992, ... 2003, along with their year codes L, M, N, .... 3.

Proceeding up through the years 1992, 1993, 1994 to 1995 in the left-hand, ABS column, that column swerves left to illustrate how major revisions for 1996 made for a change to ABS II from ABS I.

Each line in the attached Overview is labelled with a year. For years after 1991, each line is a model year.
(The model year was assigned by Honda when each ST was built.)
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(The attached Overview does not copy well into this post. Maybe a better copy of it can be posted later.)

 

[DaveWooster]

Attached is a World Overview of the ST1100/A/P Line. (It is simplified compared to the previous version found in the post just above this one.)

The three ST model types are shown as three columns. All items pertaining to model type are colored:
Red for ABS ST1100A,
Green for Standard ST1100, and
Blue for Police ST1100P type.

The column for ABS ST1100A has two shades of red. (ABS II is darker; ABS I is lighter.)

Items pertaining to model year are colored purple. (Those items include year codes L, M, N, ... Y, 1, 2, 3 for years 1990, 1991, 1992, ... 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003.)

The first column has all the ST years from 2003 down and back to 1990.
Each row from 1992 up to 2003 is a "model year" containing any and all the STs and ST Pans that Honda produced for that model year.

The bottom two rows, dated 1991 and 1990, are labelled Vintages.
The purpose of labeling them that way is so that all the STs in a given row are the same age, in the sense that no two of the STs in that row differ by any year-to-year change.

That last statement may need further explanation, which is given below.
(The rest of this post can be ignored if you have little interest in those first two years, 1990 and 1991.)
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All STs and ST Pans in the 1100 Series were produced during 14 annual ST production runs. We can call each of those production runs a Vintage.
For years 1992 thru 2003, each of those 12 Vintages can be clearly labelled with a model year, from 1992 to 2003.

The 1991 Vintage contains all the non-USA models that Honda labelled as model 1991. It also contains the later version (serial numbers 1271 and higher) of the 1991 USA, 49-state model, plus the later version (serial numbers 246 and higher) of the 1991 USA California model. (Each of those two models has its own string of serial numbers.)

The 1990 Vintage contains all models that Honda labelled as model year 1990. It also contains the earlier version (serial numbers up to 1270) of the 1991 US, 49-state model, plus the earlier version (serial numbers up to 245) of the 1991 US California model. (There was no 1990 USA model, and all STs for 1990-1991 are model type Standard ST1100.)

For those non-US markets that had both a 1990 and a 1991 model, Honda made roughly ten small changes for 1991, relative to 1990. Those changes show up in the better versions of the 1991 USA parts lists as mid-year changes. The 1990 Vintage is all pre-1992 STs that did not incorporate those ten or so changes. And the 1991 Vintage is all pre-1992 STs that did incorporate those changes. (Mid-year changes seem suspicious because Honda generally did not make changes except when going from one Vintage to the next. For Canadians, the change from black to silver metallic paint was a change made for 1991. For the USA, roughly speaking, that same change in paint color was made for the later versions of the 1991 USA models, but parts lists simply show both black and silver part numbers.)

What happened was that the first Vintage, the 1990 Vintage, was very long; it lasted the better part of a year. The second Vintage seems to have followed right on the heels of that first Vintage. And Honda started the 1991 ST model year, for the USA, months before the 1990 model year and the 1990 Vintage were entirely built. By labeling both Vintages with the same 1991 label, American Honda was able to claim that they were offering a color choice for their 1991 STs. (The down side was that American Honda created '91 models which contain two Vintages of STs in the same model.)

If you are in North America, your ST should have the "date of manufacture" on its VIN sticker. The first Vintage ended in the period from May to July of 1990. The second Vintage started for Europeans in about August, 1990, but did not start for North Americans until about late September, 1990. It ended for everyone in about the next month, October, 1990. (That "date" will appear as a month/year. For example: I once had an early, 1991 US ST1100 that was made in 03/90.)

 

[Mckeith]

I have not yet looked at production numbers near model year 2000.
As I understand it, year 2000 was the last year for any ST models in Europe ... and in Australia, as well.
I did recently look at the available numbers for years 1990 through 1995. (Production then was generally still aimed mainly at Europe ... 24 years ago.)

Hmmm. That is new to me. Mine, bought in Germany is a year 2002. It could come from somewhere else. Who knows.
Regards

 

[DaveWooster]

Hmmm. That is new to me. Mine, bought in Germany is a year 2002. It could come from somewhere else. Who knows.
Regards

We can obtain the year of your ST in a moment, but the following will be the likely outcome:

You have an ST1100 Pan European.
It was built in 1999 for sales year 2000, but Honda never put the build year on any ST1100 Pan.
Honda assigned, at the factory, model year 2000 to your Pan, but Honda never spelled out the model year they assigned to any ST1100 Pan. Instead, they looked up the universal code for 2000, found that the code is the letter Y, and put that Y in your Pan's frame number and probably also on the white paint code sticker that is near the top middle of your frame.

When your Pan was being sold new, it was as expensive as a BMW. So it did not sell in 2000. And the dealer knew there would be no new 2001 Pan coming from Honda, so there was still no rush to sell it in 2001.

The bike sold in late 2001 or 2002 and was first registered in 2002. So the Government assigned to your Pan the model year 2002. And when that Pan sold used later, the seller advertised it as a 2002 model. (This happened not only in Europe, but in about half of the Australian states.)

Now you want to find a parts list for your Pan. You can find dozens of Pan parts lists online at www.cmsnl.com which is a Honda dealer in the Netherlands. You can search there for "2002 ST1100" but will find only North American ST1100s, as they are called here. And "2001 ST1100" gives the same outcome.

Finally, you search on "2000 ST1100" and find parts lists for Pans of all three types (Plain standard Pans, Police Pans and Pans factory fitted with ABS/TCS). Your parts list will be found in one of those.

Your frame number starts with JH2SC26 and ends with a four digit serial number. You can try to match the middle portion of your frame number to the frame number associated with each of the year 2000 Pan parts lists, to narrow your search down to one parts list.

Or, you can answer the following question:

What is the middle portion of your frame number?
And what is printed on the first line of your paint code sticker (a photo illustration of which is in the Haynes repair manual)? Is there something like "ST1100Y" ?

Regards from David in North America, where
an ST1100 frame number is called a Vehicle Identification Number, or VIN, and each VIN sticker clearly spells out the model year and year code assigned by Honda, plus, in smaller type, the build month/year.