New G6 H4 with SHIELD is now availible - no glare no scatter.

2turbos said:
Yesterday after reading this thread beginning to end I ordered the Evitek H-4 6500k lamps with shield from Amazon, which had available free same day delivery(Amazon Prime).
I installed them last night.
I also used a pair of Honda to H-4 adapter plates, bent the two lower tabs back on the lamps and the install was seamless.
I am shocked how bright they are and will dial down the headlight adjustment to not dazzle oncoming traffic.
The color temperature matches perfectly my Cree element driving lights.
All in all very nice performance lighting upgrade to my venerable ST1100.
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Mine arrived today. ST1100

update..
I have an entire headlight assembly sitting here on the table in front of me and still can't figure out how these things install. I can do conventional bulbs, on the bike, in my sleep.

The ring mount with the 3 tabs is held on the LED light assembly with two small screws. I've read about removing it, although that seems to make no sense, and screws were not mentioned. I've removed the two lower tabs from it and will be using the H4 adapters.

No clue how to handle the spring clip with respect to fitting around the LED assembly to lock it in place, or what to do with the rubber boot either!

Again...ST1100
 
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DeanR said:
I have an entire headlight assembly sitting here on the table in front of me and still can't figure out how these things install.
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From an earlier post in this thread someone said the bulb/fan assembly can be removed from the collar/tab ring by turning it 1/4 turn. Do the two screws on your bulbs hold the entire collar/tab ring to the bulb/fan assembly or do they just hold the tab bit to collar?

The screws might be a new wrinkle. Do the screws on your bulbs hold the entire collar/tab ring to the bulb/fan assembly or do they just hold the tab bit to collar?

The main difference between the ST 1300 and the 1100 is the latter's use of the time-honored shims. If the collar/tab ring can be removed with a twist the installation order used by a couple of members appears to be:

•Insert the shim into the headlight assembly
•Insert the collar/tab ring into the headlight assembly
•Close the wire bale locking in both the shim and collar/tab ring
•Put the uncut rubber boot in place
•Slide the bulb/fan assembly through the boot into the collar/tab ring
•Twist the bulb/fan assembly 1/4 turn to lock it in place


If the collar/tab ring doesn't twist off...

•Insert shim
•Insert collar/tab/bulb/fan as one unit
•GENTLY spread wire bale and slowly work it over the fan
•Lock LED in place
•Slide cut rubber boot over fan

I haven't ordered my G6s yet but will soon. Any and all corrections to my guesswork is truly appreciated.
 
ST Gui said:
From an earlier post in this thread someone said the bulb/fan assembly can be removed from the collar/tab ring by turning it 1/16 turn.

The main difference between the ST 1300 and the 1100 is the latter's use of the time-honored shims. If the collar/tab ring can be removed with a twist the installation order used by a couple of members appears to be:

•Insert the shim into the headlight assembly
•Insert the collar/tab ring into the headlight assembly
•Close the wire bale locking in both the shim and collar/tab ring
•Put the uncut rubber boot in place
•Slide the bulb/fan assembly through the boot into the collar/tab ring
•Twist the bulb/fan assembly 1/16 turn to lock it in place
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Edited your statements for how my installation went. You have to remove the bulb assembly from the tab collar if you want to get the rubber boots back on.
 
Kevin_56 said:
Edited your statements for how my installation went.
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I figured there would be something I didn't get right.


Kevin_56 said:
You have to remove the bulb assembly from the tab collar if you want to get the rubber boots back on.
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That confirms the If the collar/tab ring can be removed with a twist part. To Dean's inquiry are there two screws on your LED and are they not involved in the removal of the collar? I'll go back later to see if they're in any of the pics.
 
So here is the mounting ring and LED/fan assembly separated by slightly twisting them apart.

- insert H4 adapter into headlight housing. ST1100

- mounting ring with the bottom 2 tabs cut off inserted and locked in place with the spring clip. (You can see the two little screws, but turns out they stay put)

- rubber boot on.

- LED portion of the assembly inserted through the boot and twisted back onto the mounting ring. Except so far it won't do that because the spring clip interferes.

That's what I've done so far on the kitchen table. Can't wait to try it on the bike. Looks like it plugs and plays but not so much with the mount and play part.
 

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ST Gui said:
there two screws on your LED and are they not involved in the removal of the collar
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They hold the plastic retaining collar to the metal finger plate, that I forgot to add the removal of the two lower tabs. No need to remove the screws.


ST Gui said:
Maybe you just have to angle and "finesse" the bulb through the clip?
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No finesse involved. Once the bail is engaged the bulb slides right in to the retaining collar. NOW in my installation I had to "adjust" the bail so it would not but pressure on the fan unit. I did this with the light assembly on the kitchen table. I did another members this spring and had to "adjust" his bails also. This is not a every body has to adjust. Just be aware that if the LED's appear to be not sitting flat in the housing, the bail might be touching the fan unit.
 
I've had mine for about a month now and I love 'em. I'm no electrics wizard and I had these installed (and working) in 30 mins. Even did the marker bulbs right above the headlights in LED. I removed the L/R side cowls and the install was much, much easier. Hid the wiring behind the pockets. Total install with tupperware removal/install was about 2 hrs. Very little tweaking of the lights for level light. Highly recommend.

Skip
 
Kevin_56 said:
No finesse involved. Once the bail is engaged the bulb slides right in to the retaining collar. NOW in my installation I had to "adjust" the bail so it would not but pressure on the fan unit. I did this with the light assembly on the kitchen table. I did another members this spring and had to "adjust" his bails also. This is not a every body has to adjust. Just be aware that if the LED's appear to be not sitting flat in the housing, the bail might be touching the fan unit.
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The bail is the problem with this install. The assembly seats well without the bail hooked. (ST1100 with the adapter)
I'm gonna say that a lot of finesse is involved. By "adjusting" the bail, are you saying you bent it to miss the fan? This wouldn't be particularly doable on the bike. I have a spare headlight on my kitchen table that I'm practicing on.
 
DeanR said:
y "adjusting" the bail, are you saying you bent it to miss the fan?
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Yes that is what I had to do. On the 1300, it would be almost impossible to do it with the headlight unit still on the bike. A little bend here and there to make the bail not touch the fan and yet still have tension on the adapter ring. Now if you get the bails adjusted on your spare housing, can you change out the ones on the bike with the modified ones?
 
It's now again time to walk away and take a deep breath. Adjusting (bending) the bail so it doesn't interfere with the fan, while still locking down on the mounting ring, is a joke.

update...well, after a number of hours it looks like I have the fan clearing the bail (at least on the
kitchen table).
maybe in a day or two I'll make the attempt to actually get them in the bike.
 
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skipcurt said:
I had these installed (and working) in 30 mins.
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Did you have to do any bending of the bails?


skipcurt said:
I removed the L/R side cowls and the install was much, much easier.
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I'll read up on that.


DeanR said:
The bail is the problem with this install. The assembly seats well without the bail hooked.
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Dean could you post a pic of just the modified bail(s) holding the shim and collar in place without the LED assembly? I'm having trouble reconciling the difference between your/Kevin's experience and that of skipcurts. I don't have a spare headlight assembly to practice with and doubt I'll remove mine. Removing modifying and reinstalling the bails could really be a challenge.
 
ST Gui said:
I'm having trouble reconciling the difference between your/Kevin's experience and that of skipcurts
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Me too !!!!
Picture won't really show the differences in any useful way, Robert. But I can appreciate why you're asking. It's a LOT of trial and error bending of the bail. Will not be possible to do on the bike. Removal and reinstalling the bails wouldn't be a problem (shorty screwdriver and done by feel). But you could never do the bending.

update.. I couldn't wait, so out to the garage to install. 15 minutes later the LED's are in and working. (installed from the top, no removal of any plastic other than the windshield, garnish and gray 'screen'. (same as with any headlight bulb replacement).
I'm so excited that I should never ever have to mess with the damn bails ever again!
 
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DeanR said:
I'm so excited that I should never ever have to mess with the damn bails ever again!
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Thanks for all the additional info. I'll approach my install with less trepidation but not crazy about removing the windshield and other bits as you did. I may try skipcurt's method instead. Congrats!
 
I also installed mine from the top. Removed windshield, mirrors, top black front cowl cover and dashboard. Roll the windshield all the way up before starting disassembly. I find it's much less work than removing the side fairings ... and most all the work can be accomplished while standing. Having the dashboard out of the way also made it much easier to replace the corner bulbs with LEDs.
 
ST Gui said:
Did you have to do any bending of the bails? No




I'll read up on that. Just gets everything out of the way so you can see but also work much easier.




Dean could you post a pic of just the modified bail(s) holding the shim and collar in place without the LED assembly? I'm having trouble reconciling the difference between your/Kevin's experience and that of skipcurts. I don't have a spare headlight assembly to practice with and doubt I'll remove mine. Removing modifying and reinstalling the bails could really be a challenge.
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I've got an '04 1300 and the install could not have been easier...unless you could do it w/out removing your plastics.

Skip
 
Installed my LED headlights tonight and replace the Amber 194 bulbs in the headlight bezel. All I can say is awesome!!!
 
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