There Will Be a 2014 ST1300

I agree. It really doesn't matter... for now at least, if there is a new ST1300 every year or even every other year. The STs on the road now will still last a very long time. Look at all the ST1100 owners here still riding on and still able to get parts as needed and still enjoying the ride on these discontinued models! :D
 
Well said Bob I see no reason the 1300's shouldn't last every bit as long as the 1100's have. And they are still very capable bikes. As is the 1300. Ok so it doesn't have electronically adjustable suspension I have lived without it all this time I think I will survive. When I am ready for a new bike I will probably buy one that has all the features I would have liked on the ST but for now I see another 100k ahead of me on the ST.
 
Reasons Honda should just put the ST1300 out to pasture and out of our misery:
  • weight - It is a handful
  • power - 120hp just isn't enough.
  • gears - We all know 6, 7, or 8! closely-spaced gears would be better.
  • appearance - It doesn't have a beak, nor does it have the modern alien/bug appearance to its lines. And it is ugly without the panniers installed.
  • electronics - There aren't enough electrical controls & doohickeys to be modern; there's no dash display and wheels/toggles to be fingering while eyes should be on the road; and there's no digital bus system on it.
  • suspension - We all know that without electronic suspension, or without lots of knobs to misadjust, a bike just is not ridable
  • fuel capacity - It is annoying to spend so much time at the pump filling the thing! We need smaller tanks.
  • wind protection - It just doesn't look cool enough given the fairing and windshield. See 'appearance'.
  • ergonomics - We all know that the cruiser body position gives the rider much more coolness.
  • reliability - How many have had a fuel pump act up, a thermostat stick open, or find a rear flange bearing begin to fail? OMG, how did I make it home?!
  • color selection - Ending the model would allow Honda to allocate all that black paint to other models!
  • clientele - Riders wear high-vis and thus are a distraction to other motorists. Plus most are too cheap to buy a Goldwing.
  • sound - Its too quiet to be seen.
  • spirit - It's spirit can't be well described other than 'vanilla', 'dependable', or 'it just suits me'.
  • tupperware - There are too many unique fastener types. It's just plain frustrating and confusing to keep 3 or 4 fasteners straight.
  • servicing - It doesn't require a dealer to maintain.
  • warranty - See reliabliity and servicing. It wastes the current warranty. Many have even purchased an extended warranty, which similarly was wasted.
Honda needs to do better! Right?
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LOL

Some of you are sounding a bit like my dog... who has severe separation anxiety every time I walk out the door. She still has her bone. Her favorite thing to chew on. It's a few years old but still has at least 2-3 years of life left, and she's always chewing on it. It's just that I'M not there now to give her a *new* one so she wines and cries and barks for me to return immediately. (ignore the fact I may have just gone out to go find her a new one as good or better than what she has, it may just take a little while for me to find it and bring it home). :):):)


BTW- my old ST1100 still ran as well today as it ever has (-3*F when I left home this am). While it doesn't have as buggy a beak looking front as the ST1300 it still gets me down the road to work and back. I'll just have to make do I guess. :) :) :)
No offence taken here and no offence intended. :)
btw2 - my dog really does have separation anxiety. She's happy I'm home now and won't leave my side most of the time. :)
 
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Yuma ST said:
Regarding the 2014 ST: according to the Honda SW Regional Sales Director I spoke with, there will be a 14 ST1300 that is being brought into the US, solely for the LE market. None will be sold to the public. When asked to confirm, acknowledge, admit, or otherwise give a hint as to whether or not an updated, new, improved ST was headed our way he responded by saying ?look at the bikes on the stand here today?, ?these are the types of bikes that Honda will be selling now and in the future to the US market? ?I know they?re not the types of bikes you and your fellow ST riders like, but Honda estimates that it?ll sell 5 times more CTX 1300s vs. ST 1300s here in the US?.
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Thank you for confirming (in their own spokesman's words) what I have long suspected about American Honda's attitude toward American motorcyclists. Slightly unfair on Am Hon, I suppose, but I've never seen anything to suggest it is not true. They simply do not make much money from sport touring motorcyclists in the US market, so there is no reason to care what we (er, you...) think about the "choices" you have been given. Emigrate to Canada--it's the only solution! :)

Ciao,
 
Maybe a Mexican company will take over production of a ST1300 to sell here... Like what happened with the VW Beatle! :rolleyes::):):)
 
JZH said:
Thank you for confirming (in their own spokesman's words) what I have long suspected about American Honda's attitude toward American motorcyclists. Slightly unfair on Am Hon, I suppose, but I've never seen anything to suggest it is not true. They simply do not make much money from sport touring motorcyclists in the US market, so there is no reason to care what we (er, you...) think about the "choices" you have been given. Emigrate to Canada--it's the only solution! :)
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The US has 9 times the population and 11 times the GDP of Canada but are getting treated like a red-headed step child by Mother Honda.
As I've said on the thread regarding the NC700/750 models, I'm feeling a little insulted by Honda. They are risking product loyalty by dumping their leftover 700s here in 2014.

But on their defense, we had -11 degrees F this morning after about 8" of snow 2 days ago; I'm about ready for spring and going a little stare crazy. :mad:
 
I wonder if it's only in the US that Honda is not selling the ST in - what about Europe are they still getting Pan's there? Not that it would do us any good here, would be interesting to know.

Like others have said I may have to move to another brand when my 05 comes up to its 10 year point, it will have in the neighborhood of 125,000 miles on it by then (I've had a 95 ST and 85 GW), I wanted a 15 ST, but if there isn't one....:confused:
 
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From what I can find on the net, it looks like 2013, in black, is the last Pan Euro from Honda. Honda has been very strong the last couple of years in MotoGP, which means they are still deeply involved in motorcycling and in the production of new models.
I will be surprised if a new Pan Euro does not surface by 1 April, but not shocked if it does not. If it does not happen this year, than I feel Honda has given in to BMW, for now and that would be sad.
But Honda is a very strong company and build quality products. If and when they bring the 3rd Gen ST to market, it will sell and sell very well.
 
Anyone get a look at the VIN plate on the '14 models at the Canadian MC shows? I took a cursory look but did not see anything. Maybe the letter designating the year of manufacture will confirm that, what Honda is calling '14 models here in Canada, are merely leftover '12 and '13's. Afterall the color is the same.
Rod
 
drrod said:
Honda is calling '14 models here in Canada, are merely leftover '12 and '13's.... the color is the same.
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But the VIN plate would say the year of assembly. A '12 or '13 could not be called a 2014 at the dealer......they are simply leftover models. Of course, new STs sitting on show room floors should be fairly scarce by now.
I would also be curious as to how many ST13s have been sold to date, in the world market.
 
ST13Fred said:
The US has 9 times the population and 11 times the GDP of Canada but are getting treated like a red-headed step child by Mother Honda
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I can't figure that out either,the crosstourer/nc750x etc would sell well over there imo.


EdsST said:
I wonder if it's only in the US that Honda is not selling the ST in - what about Europe are they still getting Pan's there?
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Yes they are still for sale here.
 
ST13Fred said:
The US has 9 times the population and 11 times the GDP of Canada ....
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Exactly. And from Honda's perspective I wouldn't be surprised to learn that they feel they're finally giving America what it wants. Give Canada the dregs. ;-) :shrug2:

Not what we wanna hear but most everything boils down to money.

My take ....
 
If the information in the above posts are correct, I suspect that Honda simply doesn't want to spend the millions to get a 2014 model approved for sale to the public. Fleet and some government vehicles don't have to meet the same ratings, or have to go through the same approval process, as vehicles sold to the public. That is why the police and military have been able to have vehicles you and I can't buy. Ever notice the funky little vans the postal service use? Most likely Honda can slap a 2014 data plate on new STs and sell them to PDs without much investment.
 
nhdiesel said:
If the information in the above posts are correct, I suspect that Honda simply doesn't want to spend the millions to get a 2014 model approved for sale to the public. Fleet and some government vehicles don't have to meet the same ratings, or have to go through the same approval process, as vehicles sold to the public. That is why the police and military have been able to have vehicles you and I can't buy. Ever notice the funky little vans the postal service use? Most likely Honda can slap a 2014 data plate on new STs and sell them to PDs without much investment.
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I think the big expense for a new ST would be EPA emissions certification and the V4 in the VFR1200 already cracked that nut.
 
I have a 2004 ST 1300 which I bought last year. It is a great bike that looks and performs like new. Based on the number of changes to the model in the last ten years, I'm having a bit of trouble understanding why anyone cares if the model year changes. Honda engineered the bike right and stuck with a good thing. It may be a bit dated for those that want the latest toy (though it looks remarkably like the latest round of sport touring bikes and the price isn't all that far off either), but for those of who just want a bike that performs as advertised, it still fits the bill. Now would be the time for someone to suggest that Honda should produce the 2015 ST1300 with cruise control.... in blue:)
 
Blitzen said:
I have a 2004 ST 1300 which I bought last year. It is a great bike that looks and performs like new. Based on the number of changes to the model in the last ten years, I'm having a bit of trouble understanding why anyone cares if the model year changes. Honda engineered the bike right and stuck with a good thing. It may be a bit dated for those that want the latest toy (though it looks remarkably like the latest round of sport touring bikes and the price isn't all that far off either), but for those of who just want a bike that performs as advertised, it still fits the bill. Now would be the time for someone to suggest that Honda should produce the 2015 ST1300 with cruise control.... in blue:)
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In a couple other threads the price vs. technology thing has been discussed quite a bit. Yes, the ST is still a great bike, but lacking the equipment many people want. As I've said several times, if the ST is to be kept unchanged, the price has to be dropped for it to compete. People don't want to pay a premium price for an outdated or basic model. The Honda Civic sells well...but would it still if it hadn't been changed for 10+ years and had a price higher than a Volvo?
 
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