There Will Be a 2014 ST1300

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Just returned from the Progressive Motorcycle Show in Phoenix. First time that I?ve ever attended and it was very impressive. All the major manufacturers were represented and they had a lot of bikes to look at, sit on and ride. Unfortunately for me, I didn?t get a test ride, because upon arrival I went immediately to the ticket office and into the venue; rather than signing up first thing for a ride (lesson learned).

Regarding the 2014 ST: according to the Honda SW Regional Sales Director I spoke with, there will be a 14 ST1300 that is being brought into the US, solely for the LE market. None will be sold to the public. When asked to confirm, acknowledge, admit, or otherwise give a hint as to whether or not an updated, new, improved ST was headed our way he responded by saying ?look at the bikes on the stand here today?, ?these are the types of bikes that Honda will be selling now and in the future to the US market? ?I know they?re not the types of bikes you and your fellow ST riders like, but Honda estimates that it?ll sell 5 times more CTX 1300s vs. ST 1300s here in the US?.

Having now seen the CTX in the flesh I can definitely say that there will not be one parked in my garage, ever. Unless I join the Shriners. It would fit right in going down the street as part of one of their gigs.

There will be a 14 VFR1200, color black, so obviously they haven?t run out of the paint they?ve been using on the STs for the past couple of years. He was rather vague about whether the new VFR 800 would even be coming to the States.

All in all was not really impressed by what Honda had on the stand, except for the Fireblade. Oh to be 20 years younger, as it?s rather tasty, but alas those days are gone.
To be honest I didn?t really see anything that had me salivating and contemplating getting rid of the Old Black Magic, or the 08 VFR. Yes, the FJR comes standard with all the right kit, is 100 lb. lighter, etc. but it just doesn?t have those classy looks that the ST has (IMHO). Connie: chunky monkey, Triumph Trophy: extra-large, chunky monkey, 1600GT: too much money, Ninja 1000 w/ bags, gel seat, sliders, etc.: good day-tripper, but not a long ranger.

So at the end of the day it was a bit like going to a gentleman?s club with great expectations of being wowed by all the beauty, looking at the talent up on stage and coming to the conclusion that the ?trouble and strife? at home is better looking than the lot of them. Either I?m really, really satisfied and happy, or I?ve gotten a lot older than I thought I was.

Hang on, we are still talking about bikes aren?t we?
 
oh but there is a 2014 ST1300

Honda is also hiring travelling VIN plate replacement crews for leftover 2008-10 models. ;-)
I don't know about Canada but in the US the VIN placard has the month and year of manufacture on it. It would be hard to pass off a build date years old as a current model year.
 
Since there is going to be a '14 VFR1200, it sounds like they're splitting the sport touring segment into either sport-oriented or touring-oriented. Where the ST1300 really goes more right down the middle. I guess I'm one of those Shriner-types, because I cannot wait for the CTX1300.

@Yuma, sometimes you need to take a close look at what's next door before you really appreciate what you've got at home. ;)
 
I spent a little time at one of the larger NH Honda dealers (Nault's) and the salesman I spoke to had the same opinions as many of us. I asked about the '12 ST on the floor. He said they couldn't give the thing away. Honda is on crack for the MSRP they assigned it. He said nearly every customer who has looked at it has commented that they can get a lot more for less money from other brands. His opinion was also that there is a fair amount of interest in the Sport Touring class, he just has nothing he can offer other than the VFR and most of his customers want something a bit less sporty.

Too bad Honda- if my ST starts to show signs of wear in another 100k, I'll have to look elsewhere. In the meantime, I'm going to get an adventure bike to help take the load off the ST, and keep the ST for the longer trips.
 
My 2006 has just shy of 78K. Since I've got it set up for my style of riding, I will ride "Bumble Bee" until at least 150K. Great bike! Reliable! It should last another five years!
 
So-IF I ever sell my '-06, I'm gonna add a $1000 more than usual. As they are NOW collector's bikes.
 
he just has nothing he can offer other than the VFR
And they don't have a '14 version of that either......and the real killer is the new VFR 800 that Europe gets won't be coming here........sigh.........gonna look at a FJR...........................ff
 
I was at the Phoenix bike show this weekend, too. Sat on a lot of bikes. Interesting things happening at Ducati. Suzuki was a yawn. Harley had BIG presence, as usual. I was suprised KTM wasn't there. Then I entered the Honda area. The CTX1300 is not going to sell ...don't doubt me. I understand that the Honda marketing types feel like they have a handle on what bikers want. The CTX1300 isn't it. Further, the Adventure genre may be a growth market right now, but it's not the "everything" bike many claim it to be.

I don't agree with Honda walking away from the Sport Touring market. Especially when Yamaha (FJR) and Kawasaki (Concours and Ninja 1000 with factory bags) have obviously put serious skin in the game.

Bike shows like that cause us to drool over the new stuff. I confess I even lusted after a few of them this weekend. And I have to admit to some envy at how nice the seats are on several of the Harleys. I bought several "accessories" from the after-market vendors -- nice to be able to touch and try out the product first -- but, no, I'm not going to drop 18 large on a new bike this coming week. As I walked to the parking lot at the end of the day, back to my ST1300, I still really liked the look of him. It feels good that this show confirmed I made the right choice. 890 miles to Phoenix and back -- Friday to Sunday -- and my bike performed like a trooper -- never missed a beat; kept me warm and safe on the highways. Plus, he's powerful and corners with enthusiasm. Gotta love how well-engineered and reliable the ST bikes are.

Come on, Honda, take off the blinders. The Sport Touring market is long-term, multi-generational, and still very profitable. It's time to dazzle us with Honda engineering brilliance once again. The CTX1300 is NOT the next great bike. You can do much better.
 
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Well when and if my ST wears out I will worry about a replacement until then I am just going to keep riding it!
+1

I am bummed that Honda hasn't seen fit to even update the ST, but despite my one beef with the ST (weight) I still love the bike.
 
Honda seems hell bent on building the K-Car of motorcycles. I realize the third world is a major market for motorcycles, but there are a whole bunch of people in the developed world that don't want cheap transportation. I'd have thought the profit on an ST type bike would be a lot higher than a 200cc moped.
 
I'd have thought the profit on an ST type bike would be a lot higher than a 200cc moped.

Hondathink: Would you prefer a $1000 profit on a few thousand motorcycles or a $100 profit on a few million motorcycles?
 
Hondathink: Would you prefer a $1000 profit on a few thousand motorcycles or a $100 profit on a few million motorcycles?

Well said I think we have beat this horse well past dead lets just move on and see what comes down the road for now my 03 is running fine and I am still farkeling it to make it perfect for me. If there is no Honda ST there are other brands out there.
 
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