"Just keep re-selling it. Eventually, some sucker won't return it."
Shinko tire
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I worked for a carrier that was Amazon’s largest trucking partner. To my knowledge Amazon returns are rarely delivered back to the vendor or manufacturer. For most mid to low cost consumer goods it is simply too expensive to sort, recoup (repackage), and reship back. The returns pile up for months in storage trailers outside Amazon distribution centers eventually going to salvage centers for auction. No way for a $100 tire to make resale in a few months. Years maybe.
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post a pic of the production date.
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He’s a follow up on my shinko tire from last year that failed , they sent me a new tire that I said I would never put on , so a year later when my Dunlop wore out I figured what’s the odds of getting another bad tire, so I put it on and 240 miles later second tire is failing also.
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That looks like the ends of the tread joined together.
I.e., a failed joint rather than a random crack.
I.e., a failed joint rather than a random crack.
docw1
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Interesting. I'm on my third set of Shinko Verge tires and never had any problems.
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crack or joint either way the pain in my backside sure does hurt.
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Both tires felt great couldn’t be happier with the ride and price, unfortunately, both tires with less than 1,000 combined miles were failing. even if mounted incorrectly I wouldn’t expect both tires to start splitting .
Andrew Shadow
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I have run three sets of Shinko Verge 011 tires on my ST1300. I have only noticed three differences of any significance with them. One is that every set so far have taken quite a bit more weight to balance than the Michelin PR series that I have used previous to the Shinkos. The second is that once they approach the wear limits the last bit of rubber disappears very quickly. The third is that they have one row of those little rubber nibs that new tires have located in a dumb place on the bead seat that causes air leaks if you don't remove them. Every new tire has these nibs but they have never caused a leak on any other tire that I have ever used, motorcycle or car. Other than that I have not had any defects with them.
Out of curiosity have a look at the date codes and the batch numbers. This seems like a rather rare occurrence and strange that one person would get two tires with the same defect. I am just wondering if they had a bad batch and you happened to get both tires from the same batch.
Out of curiosity have a look at the date codes and the batch numbers. This seems like a rather rare occurrence and strange that one person would get two tires with the same defect. I am just wondering if they had a bad batch and you happened to get both tires from the same batch.
Erdoc48
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I had an original set of Shinko‘s on my 94 when I first got the bike and then I found a set about a year ago (a Raven on the back and a Verge upfront). They worked well enough and I didn’t have the cracking as in the pictures above however, they did require quite a bit more weight to balance them (full 2 oz up front and 1.75 oz in the back). I have a set of Avon Spirits on there now and they required minimum weight (0.25 ounces upfront and 0.75 ounces in the rear). The only problem that I had with the Shinko‘s is that I would get a decent head shake on deacceleration if I had my hands loosely on the handlebars. It got pretty violent a few times, but not so bad to throw me off the bike. Since changing tires, I never had that issue again. I even had that with the second set of Shinko. I can never understand that. And, I have tapered roller bearings in the steering head of both ST‘s. I have a different set of Shinkos for the Silverwing (scooter tires, model 567/568), and they did not require substantial weight to balance them and they have actually been very good tires. I would buy those again in a heartbeat for the Silverwing. For the ST’s I’ll stay with the Avons, the Angel GTs or the Z8’s, but I guess every manufacturer can produce a few lemons as well as some really outstanding tires.
Same here. Two sets and zero problems. As @Igofar mentioned, I have not mounted the Ravens either as the Verge work perfectly for me.
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Date code on first tire 3823 second tire 0424, about 18 week apart, and I’m with you what are the odds , second tire only had 240 miles if I ran it more would there be more cracks don’t know, should I take a chance, absolutely not
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I’ve posted this info somewhere else, but no time to find it at the moment.
They have very stiff sidewalls, and are VERY sensitive to how they are mounted.
The rim MUST be cleaned before the tire is mounted, and correct tire paste (not windex) must be used.
When airing up the tire, it should only POP twice, once on each bead.
If it’s popping multiple times, that’s telling you it’s struggling being mounted, and won’t seat perfectly, thus you get vibrations and shakes.
I found folks that had way too many weights trying to balance them as well.
Once the bead was broke, the rim cleaned, and tire paste used, the vibrations and shakes went away, and only 1oz of weight was needed.
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I understand your concerns about proper tire mounting if the tire was not mounted properly ,would that cause the tire to crack in multiple places?