I purchased my ST with he intention of replacing the seat because I had heard the stock seat were so uncomfortable. I rode the bike about 1,500 miles and it was somewhat uncomfortable so I went ahead and ordered the Sargent World Sport Performance Seat ($684 including tax and shipping). I went with Sargent based on a recommendation from a friend. I have put about 500 miles on the bike since installing the seat and have not been impressed at all. In my opinion the seat is no more comfortable than the stock seat. The seat looks a little nicer that the stock but I was sure expecting more from the Sargent seat in the way of comfort. I would not recommend it. I guess it is one of those live and learn things.
Product Review: Sargent World Sport Seat
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Everyone is going to be different. Many have reported an improvement over the stocker. I personally, on my '03, replaced the stock seat with a sargent and it helped me go from having to stop every 100 miles to a bike I could ride 1,000 miles a day for several days.
Some hate the sargent and like the stock better.. Unfortunately, unless you can get a hold of a seat for some time there's almost no guarantee it will be better.
Sorry to hear that but I'm pretty sure you'll be able to unload it here.
Some hate the sargent and like the stock better.. Unfortunately, unless you can get a hold of a seat for some time there's almost no guarantee it will be better.
Sorry to hear that but I'm pretty sure you'll be able to unload it here.
As one that takes great interest in these seat reports, I wondered this....has anyone, for a cheap alternative, tried the padded cyclist shorts? I'm curious enough to try soon, and report. Maybe someone can already share with me, the "bottom line" on such a thought?
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As one that takes great interest in these seat reports, I wondered this....has anyone, for a cheap alternative, tried the padded cyclist shorts? I'm curious enough to try soon, and report. Maybe someone can already share with me, the "bottom line" on such a thought?
I have and they aren't bad. But, you usually have to get some expensive ones so the hem/seam part that goes around your leg, above your knee, doesn't cut into your leg.. just gets uncomfortable after a while w/cheaper shorts.
They are not substitute for a spencer mod in my opinion.
Yep. I messed up. I realize that and my intention in posting the review was to maybe help others not make the same mistake.
I am just going to leave it on the bike and keep the stock seat safely put away. When I go to sell the bike it may come in handy and make the bike look a little better.
Thanks for the comments.
NoBull
The stock seat does get better with use. Or at least thats what I keep telling myself..
Hey I tried a propad at propad.com and really liked it, its a full size gel pad that has hooks on the side to keep it in place and at about $104.00 you cant go wrong, I have the boniest arse so it was a big relief for me, now I have a bill mayer custom which was better yet than the propad and can now understand how someone can ride 500 or 600 miles a day
I used a Sargent for roughly 10000 or so miles. It was a fairly good seat (for me) I was able to pull about 3-400 miles pr. day on it. I changed to a Russell seat when I decided I wanted to be able to pull more than 3-400 miles a day. The Russell supports (distributes your weight) over a bigger area than the Sargent does (the Sargent has a flat seating area), and accounts for most of the difference in the two. In my opinion after you have ridden 700 miles in a Russell, you don't feel like you've been riding on a bike all day. You feel like you've been sitting in a car all day. Good luck in your quest for a comfortable seat.
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As one that takes great interest in these seat reports, I wondered this....has anyone, for a cheap alternative, tried the padded cyclist shorts? I'm curious enough to try soon, and report. Maybe someone can already share with me, the "bottom line" on such a thought?
I also tried this option. It helped with some comfort issues associated with equipment alignment
, but the overall comfort wasn't good enough to say problem solved. My experience, yours may be different.
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Everybody's butt is different but I have little faith in seat judgements formed in as little as 500 miles. That's breakfast to a late lunch on an ST.
I tried really hard to keep the stock saddle and didn't replace it until around 10k miles. I tried a sheep skin pad and a bead cover on the stocker but the Sargent worked stock out of the box. I have found that my body likes a harder seat and have a Sargent on the ST and a Corbin on the BMW. Both are comfortable for me for all day rides day after day. The BMW came with a soft, tufted, and a**-winged Mayer that was pillow soft but the wide wing shape interfered with sporty riding. I mean that I can't easily shift my weight across it and it is too soft for my tastes.
I tried really hard to keep the stock saddle and didn't replace it until around 10k miles. I tried a sheep skin pad and a bead cover on the stocker but the Sargent worked stock out of the box. I have found that my body likes a harder seat and have a Sargent on the ST and a Corbin on the BMW. Both are comfortable for me for all day rides day after day. The BMW came with a soft, tufted, and a**-winged Mayer that was pillow soft but the wide wing shape interfered with sporty riding. I mean that I can't easily shift my weight across it and it is too soft for my tastes.
sherob
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I found it took to ~2k miles before my Sargent broke in... don't know how many mile you have on yours, butt you might give it a chance to break in
I found it took to ~2k miles before my Sargent broke in... don't know how many mile you have on yours, butt you might give it a chance to break in
Interesting!! I don't have plans to change it out with anything so I will see if time helps. Thanks for the input!!
Give the Sargent some more time. It takes a while to break-in to your backside, or maybe it's the other way 'round.
I ordered an Airhawk seat cushion and it worked great, installed it and left 2 days later for a 2800 mile trip. No problems, very comfortable and only $112.
When I first purchase my Sargent I too was unimpressed with the seating 'feel'. I thought (and still do) that the workmanship and appearance was great, but was expecting the seat have a more luxurious feel. Then I rode the Sargent / ST to Reno (756 miles) and WOW, what a difference. Where before after a long day riding I felt the iron butt, like fish sinkers in my Butt, this time "nothing" no butt soreness, no iron butt. Just arrived, no soreness, had a beer and raised my glass to the "invisible" comfort of the Sargent. After a 12 hour ride the Sargent shone through.
When I bought a new Corbin seat for my 1100 back in 1995, I wanted to toss it in the trash after the first 100 miles of riding. What a brick! Why would anyone spend that kind of money on a seat that feels worse than the stock seat? Good thing the internet had not taken off yet. If I had posted that initial observation, I would have had many people agreeing with me, and helping me rationalize the urge to send the seat back.
A wise fellow explained about seats that the softer ones are the ones that are causing your butt to compress the cruicial blood vessels. He told me to hang in there. After a few months it was still rock hard and I was still pissed off. But then I rode an 800 mile day on a trip and realized after 500 miles that my butt was the least of my problems. I then remembered how my stock seat would be bringing me to pan after 500 miles. At that point I finally realized that it isn't as much as it is the "recliner comfort" as it is the ability to spread the compression of your weight through the whole butt (and minimize the nerve and vessel compression.) That Corbin is still on my 94 1100 and the new owner just loves it.
The point is, you have to appreciate the seat over long distance to understand how they are superior to stock. They might not feel as cushy as the stock, but your butt should be far off better than the stock after long days. I say to give it some time and learn how the seats work.
A wise fellow explained about seats that the softer ones are the ones that are causing your butt to compress the cruicial blood vessels. He told me to hang in there. After a few months it was still rock hard and I was still pissed off. But then I rode an 800 mile day on a trip and realized after 500 miles that my butt was the least of my problems. I then remembered how my stock seat would be bringing me to pan after 500 miles. At that point I finally realized that it isn't as much as it is the "recliner comfort" as it is the ability to spread the compression of your weight through the whole butt (and minimize the nerve and vessel compression.) That Corbin is still on my 94 1100 and the new owner just loves it.
The point is, you have to appreciate the seat over long distance to understand how they are superior to stock. They might not feel as cushy as the stock, but your butt should be far off better than the stock after long days. I say to give it some time and learn how the seats work.
sherob
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I put my Sargent on then rode from Houston to Denver... I thought I was going to die : Rode around the mountains for a few days... still not feeling the love... rode back home... by the time I got home, it just clicked
: Rode around the mountains for a few days... still not feeling the love... rode back home... by the time I got home, it just clicked
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I put my Sargent on then rode from Houston to Denver... I thought I was going to die
Strange how everyone is different... then again, completely understandable.
When I got mine back in '04 I put it on and rode from Dallas to the Grand Canyon - stopping in Mesa Verde NP first. It was perfect from the moment I put it on and went 1 mile.
sherob
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I guess I had a Corbin butt... since I switched from a Corbin to a Sargent