Header coating to decrease temps

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Hello, I am new here and new to the st1300. I was thinking of jet hot coating my header pipes to lower temps, I thought I would include the email I got back from jet hot for anyone that might be considering it. Any input/opinions appreciated. I was thinking the extreme sterling coating.
(I have nothing to do with them BTW)

We really appreciate your interest in JET-HOT. This e-mail has your PRICE
ESTIMATE, some technical information you need to have, along with a discount
offer.

JET-HOT is the number one supplier of ceramic coated headers in the world.
We invented this coating and have over 20 years of experience in the science
of engine exhaust technologies. We also want to let you know that we just
sent you, by priority mail, information that should help you make your
decision. You should have this within a few days. This packet contains
several independent technical articles, a JET-HOT 20 page brochure, and a
video.

We'd charge $165 to coat your header in the 1300 Sterling finish. Add $20
for the matte black, blue, grey or copper finish. The gloss black is $50
additional and has an 1100?F tolerance. We'll need them here for 5 days plus
shipping time back. If the parts are chrome or nickel plated, add $50 to
the total and 2 days for stripping. Return shipping would be about $34.

Technical benefits for the 1300 Sterling are as follows: Looks great,
reduces under-hood temperatures by 50 degrees Fahrenheit and more, keeps
pipes about 300?F cooler, gives you 1-3% extra horsepower, extends average
header life by at least 10 times, and improves safety in an accident by
reducing the probability of fire-balling. It is also very easy to keep
clean. If you use one of the other 1300 colors, they perform as well, but
are not as cleanable. I will send you our full information package to get
you all the coating benefits in greater detail.

If you upgrade to the EXTREME STERLING you get a coating that will stay
shiny 200?F higher than Sterling, and take a maximum temperature of 1700?F,
though it does have an orange-peel texture compared to 1300 Sterling. It
will also provide an estimated 100?F more of insulation and carries a 5 year
warranty. It is recommended for low boost turbo and supercharged vehicles,
and lean running EFI cars. Cost is $50 more, and takes an extra 2-3 days to
process.

Finally we offer JET-HOT 2000. It does not provide as much insulation as the
1300 Sterling, but this coating can take temperatures up to 2400 degrees.
The 2000 only comes in a flat black, blue or grey finish and has a rough
texture on the outside(like 150 grit sandpaper). The Jet Hot 2000 runs $100
more than the sterling silver finish. This coating takes 2 days longer than
the sterling silver process. We suggest JET-HOT 2000 for set ups with large
shots of nitrous, high boost turbo and superchargers, motorhomes and towing
vehicles.

$ SAVE 10% $

We are automobile and engine enthusiasts and want to insure your complete
satisfaction. Please review all your options. If you inform us NOW that you

intend to work with us when you are ready, we will give you a 10% discount
from the quoted price. Call or email us to lock in your discount.

All parts receive a 3 year unlimited guarantee that covers chipping,
peeling, cracking, discoloration, rusting. New parts also get a lifetime
rust-through warranty as well.

Please ship your parts to:

JET-HOT Coatings
2530 Milford Square Pike
Quakertown, PA 18951
OR
5602 Orchard Rd
Pascagoula MS 39581
OR
1840 West Drake Dr
Tempe AZ 85283

Please note: JET-HOT 2000 is only done in the Pascagoula, MS location

Just be sure to include your name and return info so we know who they belong
to and specify the finish of your choice. As for billing, you can either
include a credit card number with the parts or you can call one in to the
phone number listed below. Please feel free to call or email with any other
questions.

Points to consider in making your decision are:
. JET-HOT has an impeccable reputation, unequaled quality and a guarantee.
A guarantee we stand behind.
. JET-HOT's parent company, Metallic Ceramic Coatings Inc, engineered our
coatings to the third generation which contains silver powders allowing your
components to look better, last longer, and outperform all other coatings.
. JET-HOT uses expensive aluminum oxide to clean components. We don't
use sand like others.
. JET-HOT applies two exterior coatings and two interior coatings and not
just one layer as everyone else does.
. JET-HOT has the most brilliant appearance of any coating, not just an ok
or so-so look.
. JET-HOT will work with you to help you achieve your objectives and will
gladly provide you with technical know how at no additional cost.
. JET-HOT has the most cost effective pricing and there are no hidden
charges.

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We can coat almost anything you want including manifolds, oil pans, springs,

and a whole lot more!!!
 
I think their claims hold some truth. I had them coat the exhaust collector on my V65 Sabre for cosmetic purposes and it does seem that the pipes run cooler now. The coating is more durable than I expected as well.
 
Or for a lot less money go to Jegs and get some header wrap and cover your headers with that. I did mine in late 2004 or 2005 and they are holding up fine. It does basically the same thing as Jet coatings keeping the heat in the headers for better scavenging of exhaust gases. I used black so they would not stand out.
 
I had my header pipes Jet Hot coated 2 years ago and I am satisfied with the results - the 1300 Sterling coating will work fine on an ST. There are a couple of things to be aware of if you plan on having ceramic coatings put on your ST:
1. Any exhaust pipe interface surfaces or threads need to be marked so they are not coated. If a coating is applied to the ID where the exhaust pipe seals fit, they will never go back together the same way. New seals will be required for these areas, I think they are about $40.
2. The seal surface at the head end of the pipes will need to have the coating cleaned off for each cylinder. The coating does not go on consistent enough to create a good seal surface. I used an india stone and and worked each seat back to the base metal.
I don't think that the coatings offer any noticable performance improvements. I didn't dyno my bike before and after to verify this, but I know I have more than enough power to get me into trouble. The two main advantages are the thermal barrier, I have use ceramic coatings on other vehicles and I know this is an advantage, and your pipes will look great for the entire life of the bike.
 
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Turbo Tom sells a header wrap kit for the ST. It is very reasonable for what you get. I wrapped mine 1 year ago. It changed the heat pattern, some for the better, some for the worse. The feet/lower legs are cooler. There is more heat pouring from the cylinder head and front of the seat. I do believe they helped slightly, but not as much as I would have liked.

Removing the inner panels is the most significant change to reducing the heat that I have found. To help the passenger, replace the hot catalytic/mufflers with Two Bros or Staintunes.

If you really want heat, just ride the old or new Kawasaki Concours! Hop back on the ST and cool off....
 
On my 05 I had Performance Coating ceramic coat my headers and couldn't really tell any difference in heat. For sure they didn't drop the pipe temp 300 degrees as stated in Jet Hot's letter.

I later put Jegs thermal wrap on top of the ceramic coated pipes.
 
I wrapped my headers with Turbo Tom's header wrap. It works fine. I don't notice as much heat flowing from the sides, but now I notice the heat at my ankles from the catcons (when I am stopped or going slowly).
 
I had the jet hot coating on a header on a previous bike, the coating held up great for 14 years. I was very happy with their product.
 
I had my exhaust ceramic coated right here in Edmonton. We have a couple of local powder coaters who do it and use the same ceramic consumable (powder) that Jet-Hot uses.

There is nothing special about what they do (Jet-Hot) in other words any good powder coater who lives near you can do the same job, no need to ship to Jet -Hot.

I had mine done in silver, they look awesome and have decreased the heat around my feet and lower legs drastically.

The coating most definitely lowers the skin temp of the pipe. I believe they flow better too as the inside is coated smoothly with ceramic as well.

The most effective exhaust heat reduction comes from the ceramic coating along with aftermarket pipes like my Staintunes.

They run much cooler than the stock exhaust.

I would never wrap pipes, the extreme heat buildup is not good for the material the pipes are made of and will shorten the life span.
 

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Blue One said:
I had my exhaust ceramic coated right here in Edmonton. We have a couple of local powder coaters who do it and use the same ceramic consumable (powder) that Jet-Hot uses.

There is nothing special about what they do (Jet-Hot) in other words any good powder coater who lives near you can do the same job, no need to ship to Jet -Hot.

I had mine done in silver, they look awesome and have decreased the heat around my feet and lower legs drastically.

The coating most definitely lowers the skin temp of the pipe. I believe they flow better too as the inside is coated smoothly with ceramic as well.

The most effective exhaust heat reduction comes from the ceramic coating along with aftermarket pipes like my Staintunes.

They run much cooler than the stock exhaust.

I would never wrap pipes, the extreme heat buildup is not good for the material the pipes are made of and will shorten the life span.
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BS the pipes are stainless, mine are fine after 5 years. It cost me about $40, do the math. I can put my hand on the exhaust pipe and hold it there for about 2 minutes, you try that.
 
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