Just got a Symax II and like it so far. The sun screen could be darker, but I can still wear my Ray Bans under the shield if the sun is bright.
I may get one for my co-pilot too.
I may get one for my co-pilot too.
Helmets Flip up helmet with sun visor, like it or not?
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Hi Phillyrube
I don't mind at all, but I would be a little bit worried about sizing I have never needed a medium helmet before but I did with this one. What about the five year warranty, would that be valid?
If you or anyone else needs/wants one and is willing to take what would be an expensive risk, then yes sir if I can help I'm your man.
Cheers
Paul
I don't mind at all, but I would be a little bit worried about sizing I have never needed a medium helmet before but I did with this one. What about the five year warranty, would that be valid?
If you or anyone else needs/wants one and is willing to take what would be an expensive risk, then yes sir if I can help I'm your man.
Cheers
Paul
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Hey Paul.
Keep an eye on the Schuberth C3 prices when you are out around. Let us know if they ever come down towards something reasonable for price.
Keep an eye on the Schuberth C3 prices when you are out around. Let us know if they ever come down towards something reasonable for price.
Do find it any more or less noisy than what you replaced?
Will do Blue One
?387.00 at the minute
But dont hold your breath for cheap ones....lol
Paul
?387.00 at the minute
But dont hold your breath for cheap ones....lol
Paul
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Thanks Paul. That is already a reduction from when they were first released.
I expect the price will come down even further yet as production increases and the helmet gets further along into it's retail life. ( A product will sell large numbers as it is new, and then the demand tapers off and the price gets cut to keep sales moving)
It happened with the C2 as you could pick them up for a decent price after a bit of time went by.
I suspect the C3 will be similar.
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Maybe they'll be on this side of the pond come early oh-nine?
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Likely the only way that would happen would be if someone were to bring some in under the radar, and sells them as such.
Schuberth has been quite clear in the communications I have had with them that they will not participate in the North American market as they have no distributor and their products certification does not meet our requirements.
They are also presently running at capacity to meet the demands of the European market.
They did say that they plan to have DOT and Snell certification for their full line at some point in the future, and that they would consider our market at that time. ( No indication of when that might be was offered )
1) If you own a modular helmet, do you like it? Would you buy another?I'm on my second HJC modular helmet. The first was the original Sy-Max. I now have a Sy-Max II. Would I buy it again? Maybe. It's the best fitting modular for me, but I would jump to another modular helmet that fit my head as well and gave me another 1/2"+ of chin room. HJC has another new modular out now, I don't know if it is a replacement for the CL-Max or an addition to the line.
2) How do you like your sun visor?
I like it. It's not, however, perfect. I wear glasses, currently my "large" glasses. They are wide enough that the corners of the glasses are against the sun visor, which results in the glasses being pushed very slightly up. It actually keeps the glasses in that spot where they sit when I first put them on, before they slip a bit down the nose. As a result, I have to open my visor and push the glasses up before I can lower the sun visor.
2) How do you like your sun visor?
I like it. It's not, however, perfect. I wear glasses, currently my "large" glasses. They are wide enough that the corners of the glasses are against the sun visor, which results in the glasses being pushed very slightly up. It actually keeps the glasses in that spot where they sit when I first put them on, before they slip a bit down the nose. As a result, I have to open my visor and push the glasses up before I can lower the sun visor.
Have the Nolan 102. Sun visor I often lower to the first click where I don't look through it, but it still blocks the main sun rays since they come from above (kind of like a visor would). they sell a stick on tint that will do the same with a full face helmet for a cheap enough price. It's all I normally ever need in the Northeast.
The flip ups are super convenient putting on the helmet with glasses, they are super convenient stopping for gas. Yes they are convenient to speak on the road to a riding buddy at a stop sign. That's about it, and they are less convenient during the ride due to noise, weight, and overall crash safety.
Otherwise I find no real improvement in convenience from a full face, such as at a rest stop etc. as I always remove my helmet when resting anyway to get a faster recuperation process going.
The Nolan has steel hinges which is important to me over plastic in a crash. That being said, I have read and agree that flip ups are some degree less protective than a full face in a crash.
Combine that with the fact I can live with but don't particularly like the extra weight, and I will be going back to a lighter stronger full face helmet next purchase.
Actually I went back to my old Scorpion 700 for awhile (not a particularly light full face), enjoyed the little bit of weight difference right off. However I got to test the crash resistance of it's chin guard rendering the Scorpion garbage pail fodder. Worked great but I'm back to the Nolan until I purchase a nice new light full face helmet replacement.
As to Scorpion when thumping down on my face. Didn't even feel the thump, very good that way. On the Scorpion downside, it moved about in turbulence on the interstate more than I liked, kind of annoying, (Nolan doesn't). The face shield on the 700 sucked badly in the rain, hard to see through with rain drops and streaks sticking to it like glue (had a heck of a time leading at AQUASTOC with mine (Nolan is decent in the rain). That wouldn't be an issue with the ST windshield, but it was with my bikes. The Scorpion was quieter than the Nolan with and without ear plugs, but I never felt any cooling air in that helmet unless the face shield was up letting air in, not a great summer helmet. Also the 700 FAILED the cold weather dot test one year so it's not necessarily a great winter helmet either. I won't be a repeat buyer or spend those many extra dollars on the heavy 1000. I'd sooner spend that extra money on lighter weight for all day riding at my age.
The Scorpion 1000 is a good deal heavier than the 700 (which isn't a light helmet either) and so the 1000 is completely off my radar.
The flip ups are heavy, they are noisy, and some level of less safe in a crash (but worlds better than a 3/4 helmet). They rock at gas stops and asking a fellow rider a question at a stop sign. I'll be back to full face when the Nolan has lived it's useful life, or some extra $ find their way to me.
The full faces are a few minutes extra hassle at certain types of stops, but otherwise outperform their flip up brothers for all day riding comfort and safety in my opinion.
The flip ups are super convenient putting on the helmet with glasses, they are super convenient stopping for gas. Yes they are convenient to speak on the road to a riding buddy at a stop sign. That's about it, and they are less convenient during the ride due to noise, weight, and overall crash safety.
Otherwise I find no real improvement in convenience from a full face, such as at a rest stop etc. as I always remove my helmet when resting anyway to get a faster recuperation process going.
The Nolan has steel hinges which is important to me over plastic in a crash. That being said, I have read and agree that flip ups are some degree less protective than a full face in a crash.
Combine that with the fact I can live with but don't particularly like the extra weight, and I will be going back to a lighter stronger full face helmet next purchase.
Actually I went back to my old Scorpion 700 for awhile (not a particularly light full face), enjoyed the little bit of weight difference right off. However I got to test the crash resistance of it's chin guard rendering the Scorpion garbage pail fodder. Worked great but I'm back to the Nolan until I purchase a nice new light full face helmet replacement.
As to Scorpion when thumping down on my face. Didn't even feel the thump, very good that way. On the Scorpion downside, it moved about in turbulence on the interstate more than I liked, kind of annoying, (Nolan doesn't). The face shield on the 700 sucked badly in the rain, hard to see through with rain drops and streaks sticking to it like glue (had a heck of a time leading at AQUASTOC with mine (Nolan is decent in the rain). That wouldn't be an issue with the ST windshield, but it was with my bikes. The Scorpion was quieter than the Nolan with and without ear plugs, but I never felt any cooling air in that helmet unless the face shield was up letting air in, not a great summer helmet. Also the 700 FAILED the cold weather dot test one year so it's not necessarily a great winter helmet either. I won't be a repeat buyer or spend those many extra dollars on the heavy 1000. I'd sooner spend that extra money on lighter weight for all day riding at my age.
The Scorpion 1000 is a good deal heavier than the 700 (which isn't a light helmet either) and so the 1000 is completely off my radar.
The flip ups are heavy, they are noisy, and some level of less safe in a crash (but worlds better than a 3/4 helmet). They rock at gas stops and asking a fellow rider a question at a stop sign. I'll be back to full face when the Nolan has lived it's useful life, or some extra $ find their way to me.
The full faces are a few minutes extra hassle at certain types of stops, but otherwise outperform their flip up brothers for all day riding comfort and safety in my opinion.
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Since my original post, I have purchased an HJC Sy-Max II. I'm not impressed with the helmet at all. It's horrible in cold weather (face shield fogs in an instant....literally an instant!), not nearly as comfortable as my Scorpion and it's a lot noiser than I thought it would be.
It's holding space on the shelf until the weather warms up. I'll see if I change my mind then. I hope I do.
It's holding space on the shelf until the weather warms up. I'll see if I change my mind then. I hope I do.
Internal Sun visor only...
I have the Nolan with the external sunvisor and got rid of it..
1. Can't ride with the visor up with sun shade down
2. Sun visor marks a line across the shield
3. If you stop somewhere during the day for any length of time you'll need sunglasses anyway..
I have the Nolan with the external sunvisor and got rid of it..
1. Can't ride with the visor up with sun shade down
2. Sun visor marks a line across the shield
3. If you stop somewhere during the day for any length of time you'll need sunglasses anyway..
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+1 on the Fogging in cold weather.....and the rear vents can't be closed to keep out the cold air.....
I still like it though....
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I'm sure I will like it when the weather warms up, up here. HJC has a lot more time in the market than Scorpion and I can't believe for the price of the helmet, HJC doesn't have a better solution for the face shield.
If they did, it would be a great helmet for a modular and I wouldn't have to look its sad eyes as I take the old, trusty Scorpion for my cold weather riding.
I just ordered the Shark Evoline Absolute from Revzilla. PM me in a week or two for personal reviews and I will also post my thoughts too after a few rides in diff. climates. Later,,,,
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That's a real nice helmet you just got yourself....but can I suggest that you clean the visor before going out in the rain I have no idea what was on mine but I could not wipe the rain off, it just sort of smeared not good. Fine since I washed it with detergent.
Otherwise I have had no problems with this helmet it's a great piece of kit.
Did you try for size before buying? Mine is the first helmet I have ever had that is a medium I have always worn large but the large Evoline just flopped about on my head. Strange fitting size.
Paul
Newenough.com......Has symaxII around $200 with shipping. I bought mine on e-bay, best offer price. I payed $190.00 with shipping & ins. I went with e-bay because he was here in SoCal. Recieved it next day UPS.
SymaxII is going to be a great summer helmet. I aggree with the others. Is brezzy/cold in the winter and fogs easy.
I would buy one again. Love the flip up and visor.
Hi,
Anybody have a source for a good price on the N 103?? Pretty hard to compete with my Calberg, It flat out just works.. Had a shulberth and the Calberg works better, quieter and fits me better.. I tried on a n 103 and it fits the best for me.. Symax too tight..
best price??
mitch
Anybody have a source for a good price on the N 103?? Pretty hard to compete with my Calberg, It flat out just works.. Had a shulberth and the Calberg works better, quieter and fits me better.. I tried on a n 103 and it fits the best for me.. Symax too tight..
best price??
mitch