So Veronica started a thread about removing his armor. After reading all the replies I got to thinking about my armor. I have an older (8 years) pair of Motoport pants and a newer (2 years) Joe Rocket jacket. The pants have armor on the knees and the low butt. The Jacket has the elbows, high spine and shoulder. The armor in the pants is just a thin foam material and the jacket is foam but double layer. I am now thinking that I may want to upgrade, especially the pants. I know I cannot get made to fit material. It looks like Newenough has a CE material that I can probably cut to fit. Does anyone have some suggestions and/or comments ?