2003 ST1300 Ignition switch removal

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Trying to replace ignition switch and the 2 screws holding it in are proving to be a mother you know what! Tried using an extractor without an impact without success but did manage to break off part of the old switch while looking like I cracked the triple clamp. Any input would be appreciated!
 
Lovely picture Bob but no info for the poor guy., At least on my iPad.

Sorry, but I thought that picture was obvious! :oops:

Well, they say a picture is worth a thousand words, he just might have to do what I did then. Remove the triple clamp. Drill out the screw heads and that exposes the rest of the screw so it can be extracted!
 
Sorry, but I thought that picture was obvious! :oops:

Well, they say a picture is worth a thousand words, he just might have to do what I did then. Remove the triple clamp. Drill out the screw heads and that exposes the rest of the screw so it can be extracted!
Ha, guess it wasn’t obvious to us oblivious thought maybe you meant to link to a write up, guess I had better get some coffee in me and wake up!
 
Thank you for the replies, I was able to see what you were getting at by the picture and suppose I was in denial hoping I could get by without having to take the triple clamp off ..... I'll start that tonight and let you gentlemen (ahem!) know how it went.
 
Hey, sorry for the thread hijack, but somewhat on the topic. What kind of drill bits are available any more that will actually drill steel?? I bought a set of cobalt bits several years ago (not sure if they were plated or alloyed, don't remember) and they didn't work worth a damn on some steel fence tubing. Dragged out some of my old 1970s-80s regular bits and they went through it in no time, but I don't have much selection in sizes so I'm shopping for a new set. Internet reviews are all over the place, same bits are rated 5 stars and 1 star by different people, so no help there. What brand/alloy have you guys used with success??
 
Hey, sorry for the thread hijack, but somewhat on the topic. What kind of drill bits are available any more that will actually drill steel??
Thee are a LOT of brands of drill bits out there that do a great job on steel. You simply have to stop shopping at Harbor Fright. Just kidding, but seriously, name brand drill bits will perform but cheap garbage ones will not ( I stopped buying any edge tools (tools w/ a sharpened edge) from HF after several bad experiences - Chinese heat treating was not consistent in my experience). Cleveland Twist Drill is gone, but every now and then I see them - someone might have bought the name. I like Nachi drills - have had NO problems with any of them and I usually buy them in packs of 10 for smaller sizes (but I do a lot of drilling of metal).

If you go to a machine tool supply place - those vendors who sell lathe bits, carbide inserts, micrometers, etc. and ask them what drill brands they have that perform - they will tell you what they have.
 
If you go to a machine tool supply place - those vendors who sell lathe bits, carbide inserts, micrometers, etc. and ask them what drill brands they have that perform - they will tell you what they have.
that's kinda what I did with my current set, went to a legit industrial hardware store, and they weren't cheap, but not super expensive either. But they don't seem to be what I want. They weren't terribly expensive though, Since I don't need every size in 1/64" increments I'm thinking about just buying a few key sizes instead of a set, but I suspect doing that may cost as much as an equivalent set anyway.
 
Years and years ago, I bought a set of Craftsman labeled drills something like 1/64" to 3/8" in 1/64 increments or something like that. Over the years one or two broke or went missing. But it's been a great set none the less. But the internal rack broke making handling the case and drills a little awkward for portability.

A year ago I bought a small set of DeWalt Ti drills that seem to work fine. I had the same problem with no clear consensus of quality. I don't use them enough to warrant tracking down experts and asking 'what's in your kit'. But if there were some clear standout sets like my Craftsman (or better) of yore I'd buy.
 
that's kinda what I did with my current set, went to a legit industrial hardware store, and they weren't cheap, but not super expensive either. But they don't seem to be what I want. They weren't terribly expensive though, Since I don't need every size in 1/64" increments I'm thinking about just buying a few key sizes instead of a set, but I suspect doing that may cost as much as an equivalent set anyway.
I have always bought sets of things like drill bits (and wrenches, etc), and have also ALWAYS wondered if I would ever use all of them. The answer, after 40 years of playing around, is, of course NOT regularly. But, I have probably used every wrench and drill bit at least once (well, maybe not my numbered set - who needs all 60 drill bits?). Now I just by an envelope of replacements for the dull ones - 10 or 12 at a time and usually in the smaller sizes. Anything from 1/4" and up, I sharpen in my 'Drill Doctor'. I only buy Nachi bits because I have had great luck with that brand - no other reason. Btw, if you are drilling hardened steel, they make harder drill bits - up to carbide.

My experience with industrial hardware stores is they are hardware stores - and the people working there do not necessarily know (or care) about the qualities of different brands. I've had better luck going to machine tooling suppliers - but again, not all are equal. There are a number of guys here who have been machinists and/or owned milling machines, lathes, etc. Perhaps if you asked them directly about brands you might get some more answers.
 
I have bought lots of drill bits over the years. I don't remember having any trouble removing those screw heads, and I have no idea the brand name I used. :rolleyes:

BTW, those screws are made NOT to be removed! I have, in the past changed out switches without having to use a drill, but they are textured so removal is very difficult.
 
Well I now know how to replace an ignition switch! Old one out and new one in. The previous owner broke off the key in the ignition and proceeded to complete job of making matters worse by destroying the stock switch by prying on it with what I would guess to be a 6ft pinch bar. Then jury rigged a toggle running the wiring over the top of the left storage compartment and of course slamming it closed every time he went riding. Anyway..... pride wouldn't allow me to leave that in place so I ordered a new switch and plastics to replace the ones previous owner Kryloned without any prep or removing any pieces so you can imagine the overspray oh I failed to mention tape wasnt used anywhere so I'll post pics once my (new to me) scooter is completed in the next day or 2 depending on the weather.
 
So tonight I'm walking around the Del Mar Fair and there's a guy from LA selling Rodman reaper drill bits, drilling holes in all kinds of different metals. Picked up a set from 1/16" to 1/4" in 1/64" increments and he said if I ever dull or break a bit just mail it up to Canoga Park and they'll send me a free replacement. I googled the company when I got home and they seem to have a good reputation, so these should be good enough for my occasional metal drilling tasks and the price seemed fair at $35 for the set.
 
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